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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-29-2008, 06:30 PM Thread Starter
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A Literacy Clause, please?

Hello,

I've been on this forum for a short time, but I've been noticing some posts on the site are just ineffective. Other people, especially those trying to help, can't even understand the question or problem because of basic lack of communicative skills on the part of some posters. I know many people speak English as a second language, and that is totally cool, but more often than not the people trying to speak English (as a second language) on here do very well, whereas people who supposedly speak English can't type for shit.

I ran across another automotive forum with a similar problem, and they came up with something like this:

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Literacy clause

Being that this is an internet forum, we're all here to read what others have to say, and write some things of our own. It should be common sense that how we write our posts reflects on ourselves, as well as either invites others to read our posts, or makes them laugh at our level of idiocy.

Spelling and grammar are important on the internet, since it's the only way people get to know you. Hopefully you would rather come off as an intelligent person rather than a blither idiot who can't even spell a simple three letter word like 'you.' This isn't AOL, a chat room or a text message; shortening word such as "you," "though," "you're," "what," and "are" into short truncations such as "u," "tho," "ur," "wut" and "r" make you look like an idiot. It also makes your post harder for other members to read, as well as lowering the collective IQ of the forums. Aside from all of that, the amount of time you "save" with such AOL speak is negligible.

Nobody is asking you to be a human dictionary, or spell perfectly all of the time - everyone makes mistakes. We are, however, asking you to put an effort into making good, quality, and easily readable posts.


Literacy clause rules:

* Don't use short truncations or single letter representations of words. It doesn't save you any time, it just makes you look stupid. Write out the word completely if you have something to say.
* Use punctuation. Even a 13 year old should be capable of at least using periods and commas, and capitalizing - the most basic forms of punctuation. Nobody wants to read a post that spans half a page without a single period or comma.
* Try to use paragraphs in long posts. This isn't hard, and you've no doubt done it in school. It makes reading your whiny half page thread about how your mom is so unfair that much easier to read.

Posts or threads containing AOL speak or other silly truncations will be subject to being edited, deleted or closed.

If you're one of those people who is either incapable of typing with a degree of intellect, or just refuses to do so, then you are an idiot. Don't bother complaining, just leave; we don't want you here.
I understand this particular clause is somewhat harsh, but the most difficult aspect of the clause would be enforcing it. Its just getting downright painful to read some of the garble on here. This site has great info, and it makes it difficult to find what you're looking for when people can't communicate effectively. Instead of "Use the search, NOOB!" try "read the literacy clause, NOOB!"

It'll be the new black.

Thanks.

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Re: A Literacy Clause, please?

Wut?

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Sounds like a reasonable idea. But I know if I put that in some of the forums I run, no one would be left to post....
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Re: A Literacy Clause, please?

I completely agree with this, but can understand if the Admin's mods don't want to enforce it. It could be quite hard to enforce something like that.

However, something we COULD implement into the forum itself is a rating system. People could rate posts or users, and anything below a certain threshold would just be ignored, and that threshold could be set in personal preferences.


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Re: A Literacy Clause, please?

[quote author=irish_ayes link=topic=124871.msg2652557#msg2652557 date=1222727759]
I completely agree with this, but can understand if the Admin's mods don't want to enforce it. It could be quite hard to enforce something like that.

However, something we COULD implement into the forum itself is a rating system. People could rate posts or users, and anything below a certain threshold would just be ignored, and that threshold could be set in personal preferences.
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That's a solid idea, but would require coding on the part of the admins. The literacy clause would just be posted in the rules, and all the mods have to do is nag people. I don't think people would leave, honestly, I think they would get their shit together. I've seen it happen.

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Re: A Literacy Clause, please?

No input from a Mod or Admin?

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Re: A Literacy Clause, please?

At a personal level I agree with you. I pretty much ignore posts that are horribly incorrect. That being said, I don't see that it should be a rule per se. It's nebulous and leads to people feeling more restricted, even the good people,
Simply by having the rule. Not something we generally want
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[quote author=MZ6ZoomZoom link=topic=124871.msg2662418#msg2662418 date=1222989781]
At a personal level I agree with you. I pretty much ignore posts that are horribly incorrect. That being said, I don't see that it should be a rule per se. It's nebulous and leads to people feeling more restricted, even the good people,
Simply by having the rule. Not something we generally want
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Well, I appreciate the reply. It is your forum and you can obviously run it the way you wish. I just thought something like I'm proposing would make it easier on everyone in the long-run. I don't think people would feel restricted, and frankly I feel that a lot of the flat-out awfulness of some peoples' posts is a result of laziness. People who repeatedly violate a steadfast 'rule' usually have inherent attitude problems, and banning them is inevitable.

That's about all I wanted to say, and I appreciate the reply. Thanks for reading the post and considering the idea.

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By the way, I apologize for the iffy grammar and short reply. I was posting that from my phone.
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Re: A Literacy Clause, please?

i would like to appologize for my poor spelling and general lack of punctuation as of late my laptop keyboard is busted


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Re: A Literacy Clause, please?

Just an FYI, the "staff" of this website isn't paid well....or at all

You really expect us to spend the hours per day it would require to be English teachers?
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