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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-30-2018, 06:37 PM Thread Starter
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No crank need help

Hey guys! Iím brand new to this forum and joined for advice for my fiancťís car. Any advice is greatly appreciated. I have a video link but canít post on here. If anyone can PM me I can send link. Thanks!

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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-30-2018, 06:54 PM
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What's been done so far to diagnose the problem?

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post #3 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-30-2018, 08:33 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the reply. Here is whatís working.

Battery
Starter
Starter relay
Ignition switch

It will start up several times then just click and then thereís a clunky sound and a humming sound coming from the TPS sensor. I checked the voltage going to the TPS sensor and was getting about 5 volts. Is it normal for these sensors to make a humming sound? Thanks guys!
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post #4 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-30-2018, 10:19 PM
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You need to keep in mind that no one here is looking over your shoulder, so you need to supply all of the important details, in order to have a chance of getting any meaningful help.

I think you'e saying that the starting of this vehicle is completely erratic, with no pattern for the no-starts. And it also will eventually start, after some random number of no-start attempts. Is all of that correct?

You posted a list of things that 'are working', but did you test them with a meter or other diagnostic testing (such as swapping the relay)?

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Battery is brand new. I took out the starter and got it tested at two auto part stores and it passed 4 times. I swapped out the starter relay but that didnít make any difference. Iíve looked at the fuses in the engine bay box and all look good and had 12 volts to them. I swapped out the ignition switch and that didnít make any difference either. Now the first problem did give me a code for a shift solenoid A. My fiancť reported the car would randomly slow down which made sense. I replaced all solenoids and when it started it ran fine and shifted gears without problem. The code reader is not giving me that same solenoid code anymore. Iím thinking maybe testing the ignition coils next.
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.... Iím thinking maybe testing the ignition coils next ....
I don't want to appear obnoxious because you are trying to carry on a decent conversation, so I hope you can bear with me here. You've reported that you did a bunch of diagnosis and also fixed one previous problem, which is a good thing. However, even though you've written lots of stuff, I still don't have any clue whatsoever as to what's going on with this vehicle. I asked about the details of the no-start symptoms, but you didn't answer that question.

Now you're talking about the coils, which wouldn't have any bearing on a no-crank condition. So I don't understand that either, and it makes me wonder if there's something other than just a random no-crank going on. Again, I'm not trying to be rude, just completely in the dark on this, trying to get the full story.

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I don't want to appear obnoxious because you are trying to carry on a decent conversation, so I hope you can bear with me here. You've reported that you did a bunch of diagnosis and also fixed one previous problem, which is a good thing. However, even though you've written lots of stuff, I still don't have any clue whatsoever as to what's going on with this vehicle. I asked about the details of the no-start symptoms, but you didn't answer that question.

Now you're talking about the coils, which wouldn't have any bearing on a no-crank condition. So I don't understand that either, and it makes me wonder if there's something other than just a random no-crank going on. Again, I'm not trying to be rude, just completely in the dark on this, trying to get the full story.
Agreed. Reading through this thread I am not getting exactly what the complaint is. Is it a crank, no start(meaning the engine will turn over but will not start)? Is it a no crank problem(the key is turned to the start position but it doesn't turn over)?

It sounds like some of your descriptions could be either complaint that is why it is confusing. Maybe both are happening randomly? Please give a clearer description of the symptom(s).

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It is a no crank problem. Turn the key you hear the starter but it wonít crank at all and then there is a clunk sound at the end. Itís an intermittent problem and occurs at times. I have a video on YouTube that shows the problem. I will PM you with link.
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Agreed. Reading through this thread I am not getting exactly what the complaint is. Is it a crank, no start(meaning the engine will turn over but will not start)? Is it a no crank problem(the key is turned to the start position but it doesn't turn over)?

It sounds like some of your descriptions could be either complaint that is why it is confusing. Maybe both are happening randomly? Please give a clearer description of the symptom(s).

I pMed you Rick. Thanks!
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It is a no crank problem. Turn the key you hear the starter but it wonít crank at all and then there is a clunk sound at the end. ....
I'm thinking we're having a terminology problem here, but I'm not even sure about that. But we can't get anywhere with this until the uncertainty is eliminated. The commonly accepted use of the word 'cranks' means that the starter is engaged and working, and spins the engine. But a minority group use the word 'cranks' to mean firing and starting up. So when you say 'you hear the starter', it makes me think the engine is turning over (spinning), but not firing and starting up? Please let us know if the engine (always) spins when the key is turned to start.

And also please don't use PM for anything that's generic, such as your vehicle's problem is, unless there is a specific reason to do so. The one big advantage of public forums such as this (over social media) is that anyone can search for the same type of problem and possibly be helped by the conversation in the thread. PM discussion defeats all of that benefit, and can be of no help to anyone else. If you're trying to PM a link to a sound bite, it isn't necessary because all we need to know is what your 'cranks' means.

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