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Sopa/Pipa Censoring the internet?

Anyone more educated about these than myself? I have watched a few videos and such about them but haven't done any serious reading yet.

https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

How do you guys think these would affect the forums we use on a daily basis? We have a ton of copyrighted material floating around on every forum I use.


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[quote author=Chefsp0t link=topic=202420.msg4175207#msg4175207 date=1326919831]
How do you guys think these would affect the forums we use on a daily basis? We have a ton of copyrighted material floating around on every forum I use.
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With our non-existent admins here, I wouldn't be surprised if the entire site were blacklisted.



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Re: Sopa/Pipa Censoring the internet?

Exactly. Just raising awareness.


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Re: Sopa/Pipa Censoring the internet?

[quote author=halo0 link=topic=202420.msg4175213#msg4175213 date=1326920417]
[quote author=Chefsp0t link=topic=202420.msg4175207#msg4175207 date=1326919831]
How do you guys think these would affect the forums we use on a daily basis? We have a ton of copyrighted material floating around on every forum I use.
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With our non-existent admins here, I wouldn't be surprised if the entire site were blacklisted.
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yeah you can post links to other "competing" forums like www.mazdas247.com and it now shows up...
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Re: Sopa/Pipa Censoring the internet?

Potentially? Absolutely.

To steal (OH NOES! SHUT DOWN THE FORUM!) a couple of analogies from others' commentary on it.

1) It is in effect like blindly blazing away with a machine gun at a crowded street corner hoping to hit your college pot dealer

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2) Shooting first and maybe asking questions later

It is overbroad, over penalizing (felony for streaming? Really?) and way too easy to abuse. For example you could potentially post infringing content to a competitors website and then report them for copyright violations to get them shut down. Since there is effectively no oversight on this, expect after the fact, DNS companies and financial companies are effectively legally obligated to "shut them down" under the law unless or until they get a court order telling them to rescind the blocking.

Away with the issues (and those are just a few), the biggest issue as showing a NEED for this legislation (especially in overly broad, overkill form that it is now). MPAA, RIAA, etc have been completely unable to show a scope for damage (other than some completely made up numbers, I mean that in the kindest way possible). The GAO (Gov't Accountability Office) a couple of years ago was completely unable to determine a scope of damages for copyright infringement.

Is piracy an issue. Yes. Should we try to find a way to fix it. Yes. Is the scope of the true damages as bad as some of the content industry is claiming? No. Note: Plenty of studies HAVE showng that most pirates focus their money on derivative goods and other things, such as a rise in concert attendance, physical movie properties (action figures, mugs, shirts, etc) and so on. So in a lot of ways, money is stilling flowing to copyright holders, if not in the same manner and the overall amount of piracy on top of that is up for debate as is the perenial question of "If they couldn't pirate it, would they spend the money to buy it anyway?"

Is this attempt like swatting a misquito in time square with a tactical nuke? Yes.
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Re: Sopa/Pipa Censoring the internet?

Serious bidness.

I'm so sick of hearing about this. I'm tempted to add it (SOPA) to the censored or substituted word list for the forum.
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Re: Sopa/Pipa Censoring the internet?

It's so useless because you can still access whatever website you want by entering their IP and not their domain name. It won't do anything except give the US a strangle hold on the internet and the ability to do whatever they want to anyone who uses it. Another medium for waging a "war" in a way that isn't justified. Hopefully they get the message...


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Re: Sopa/Pipa Censoring the internet?

I hate when I moss a misquito.

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[quote author=Chefsp0t link=topic=202420.msg4175222#msg4175222 date=1326921090]
It's so useless because you can still access whatever website you want by entering their IP and not their domain name.
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Except for when the website is put out of business because their paypal account/bank account has been shut down.



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Re: Sopa/Pipa Censoring the internet?

[quote author=fatabbot link=topic=202420.msg4175221#msg4175221 date=1326921054]
Serious bidness.

I'm so sick of hearing about this. I'm tempted to add it (SOPA) to the censored or substituted word list for the forum.
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