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http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapc...ex.html?hpt=T2

So it is looking like it was a North Korean torpedo that sunk the South Korean ship.

How the hell do you keep downplaying that???

I am not a warmonger, but seriously. You can't go around torpedoeing other people's ships. I think they covered that in diplomacy 101.
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Unfortunately, Kim didn't take that class. Seoul doesn't want any sort of armed conflict with it's economy rebounding and upcoming summits to host.

I don't know what you actually do to retaliate against this attack without risking an all out war. SK cannot afford a full scale conflict with NK.

This is just a sign of more provocations to come as NK goes through a passing of the torch to the newest despotic lunatic.
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now is the wrong time to fuck with the s koreans, starcraft 2 coming out soon!
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[quote author=fatabbot link=topic=171516.msg3633062#msg3633062 date=1272289909]
Unfortunately, Kim didn't take that class. Seoul doesn't want any sort of armed conflict with it's economy rebounding and upcoming summits to host.

I don't know what you actually do to retaliate against this attack without risking an all out war. SK cannot afford a full scale conflict with NK.

This is just a sign of more provocations to come as NK goes through a passing of the torch to the newest despotic lunatic.
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I basically agree, but who the heck are the South Koreans going to sit back and do nothing about it. Hell if I was an SK citizen I'd be demanding blood from the NKs.
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You want to start another war? That article is pretty vague, doesn't even mention fatalities....
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[quote author=itstillruns link=topic=171516.msg3633072#msg3633072 date=1272290475]
You want to start another war? That article is pretty vague, doesn't even mention fatalities....
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Fatalities have been known for weeks. Is this the first you're reading about this? LOL
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[quote author=azazel1024 link=topic=171516.msg3633066#msg3633066 date=1272290148]
[quote author=fatabbot link=topic=171516.msg3633062#msg3633062 date=1272289909]
Unfortunately, Kim didn't take that class. Seoul doesn't want any sort of armed conflict with it's economy rebounding and upcoming summits to host.

I don't know what you actually do to retaliate against this attack without risking an all out war. SK cannot afford a full scale conflict with NK.

This is just a sign of more provocations to come as NK goes through a passing of the torch to the newest despotic lunatic.
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I basically agree, but who the heck are the South Koreans going to sit back and do nothing about it. Hell if I was an SK citizen I'd be demanding blood from the NKs.
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Well, by getting NK blood, they'd likely lose thousands and thousands more of their own soldiers and citizens. Seoul would be a blood bath.

I'd want something to be done as well, but probably not at the risk of provoking a full scale conflict.
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[quote author=fatabbot link=topic=171516.msg3633083#msg3633083 date=1272291093]
[quote author=azazel1024 link=topic=171516.msg3633066#msg3633066 date=1272290148]
[quote author=fatabbot link=topic=171516.msg3633062#msg3633062 date=1272289909]
Unfortunately, Kim didn't take that class. Seoul doesn't want any sort of armed conflict with it's economy rebounding and upcoming summits to host.

I don't know what you actually do to retaliate against this attack without risking an all out war. SK cannot afford a full scale conflict with NK.

This is just a sign of more provocations to come as NK goes through a passing of the torch to the newest despotic lunatic.
[/quote]

I basically agree, but who the heck are the South Koreans going to sit back and do nothing about it. Hell if I was an SK citizen I'd be demanding blood from the NKs.
-Matt
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Well, by getting NK blood, they'd likely lose thousands and thousands more of their own soldiers and citizens. Seoul would be a blood bath.

I'd want something to be done as well, but probably not at the risk of provoking a full scale conflict.
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Certainly, but when do perceived and actual insults, incidents and attacks as well as future sovereignty outway the cost in lives and economic damage of a war and/or retaliation (economic and or military retaliation)?

I guess that is one for political leaders of South Korea to decide, but its one thing to shoot over the bow of a ship, or even put a few rounds in to a ship like has happened in the past, but to torpedo a ship in its own waters (I can't recall, but I don't think the DPRK actually disputes that area) killing dozens is a bit over the top for anything the DPRK has done since the ceasefire.
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o shit it really was a torp? i thought they said it was an old mine from the last war


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[quote author=TRex link=topic=171516.msg3633120#msg3633120 date=1272293154]
o shit it really was a torp? i thought they said it was an old mine from the last war
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I had been thinking the same thing, but I guess based on the damage pattern and size they are thinking a torpedo.
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