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Toyota suspending sales of eight recalled cars

So it wasn't the car mats that was the problem.

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TORRANCE, Calif. - Toyota is suspending U.S. sales of eight car and truck models to fix sticking gas pedals and halting production lines at plants from Texas to Canada to deal with the problem, the latest to confront the world's No. 1 automaker.

The suspended sales, announced Tuesday, involve a significant portion of Toyota Motor Co.'s fleet and some of its most popular vehicles, including the Camry and Corolla. As part of the plan, Toyota is halting some production at five assembly plants beginning the week of Feb. 1 "to assess and coordinate activities."

There are 2.3 million vehicles involved in the recall, which was announced last week. Toyota has said it was unaware of any accidents or injuries due to the pedal problems associated with the recall, but could not rule them out for sure.

"This action is necessary until a remedy is finalized," said Bob Carter, Toyota's group vice president and general manager.

The Japanese automaker said the sales suspension includes the following models: the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the 2007-2010 Camry, the 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2010 Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia.
Aaron Bragman, an auto analyst for the consulting firm IHS Global Insight in Troy, Mich., said Toyota typically sells about 65,000 Camrys and Corollas a month, and the frozen sales could strike the company's bottom line and reputation for quality.

"That's huge if they can't sell these and they don't have a fix identified. They need to go and get a solution to this fast," Bragman said.

Toyota sold more than 34,000 Camrys in December, making the midsize sedan America's best-selling car. It commands 3.4 percent of the U.S. market and sales rose 38 percent from a year earlier. Sales of the Corolla and Matrix, a small sedan and a hatchback, totaled 34,220 last month, with 3.3 percent of the market and sales up nearly 55 percent from December of 2008.

It was unclear how long Toyota would suspend production of the vehicles. In an e-mail to employees, company officials said, "we don't know yet how long this pause will last but we will make every effort to resume production soon."

Toyota officials did not immediately return phone messages.

The automaker said the move would affect plants in Princeton, Ind., Lafayette, Ind., Georgetown, Ky., San Antonio, Texas, and a facility in Ontario, Canada. About 300 workers who build V8 engines at a Toyota plant in Huntsville, Ala., will also be affected, said Stephanie Deemer, a spokeswoman for the plant.

Deemer said workers there would have the option of receiving additional training, take vacation or unpaid leave.

Toyota said no other North American Toyota facility would be affected by the decision.

Toyota dealers said they were concerned the move would hamper sales and were hopeful parts to fix the problem could be distributed quickly.

"They're going the extra mile to reassure people that they really care about the customers," said Earl Stewart, owner of a Toyota dealership in North Palm Beach, Fla. "It is something that's going to be at least a short-term hardship on the dealers, and especially on Toyota."

The auto company said the sales suspension would not affect Lexus or Scion vehicles. Toyota said the Prius, Tacoma, Sienna, Venza, Solara, Yaris, 4Runner, FJ Cruiser, Land Cruiser and select Camry models, including all Camry hybrids, would remain for sale.

Toyota said last week it was recalling 2.3 million vehicles in the U.S. to fix accelerator pedals with mechanical problems that could cause them to become stuck.

The announcement followed a larger recall months earlier of 4.2 million vehicles because of problems with gas pedals becoming trapped under floor mats, causing sudden acceleration. That problem was the cause of several crashes, including some fatalities.

Owners with questions can call the Toyota Customer Experience Center at (800) 331-4331.
Wow this is big...too not just recall but to stop sales too. Good to see they're trying to play it safe though.

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Re: Toyota suspending sales of eight recalled cars

im not gonna read the whole thing
whats the recall on the cars?

i just had a rental 09 corolla everything seemed fine minus the lack of power and appearance.


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Re: Toyota suspending sales of eight recalled cars

In a nutshell the gas pedals were sticking and accelerating to 120 mph and causing fatalities. Then toyota thought it was due to the floor mats so they had a recall to replace them. Then they confirmed the gas pedals are sticking. They said yesterday they have no fix for it yet, but the new cars are safe. (Make sense to you? Because it doesn't to me). Now they aren't selling the new cars and are recalling the affected models but still have no fix. Toyota quality.
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Re: Toyota suspending sales of eight recalled cars

Its a pretty remarkable deal. They are going to take a huge black eye over this and they're dealer network and sales staff are really going to take a beating.

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Re: Toyota suspending sales of eight recalled cars

I work for Ford, so this is good news for me. Not that I wish evil upon the competitor, but maybe those people that were going to buy a Camry or Corolla will go buy a Fusion or Focus now!

Support the country you live in, stop buying brand new imports. Once its used, it doesnt really matter because then you are supporting the American used car dealership, but brand new, the money goes to Japan, not America. I know the import companies employ many in the states at the manufacturing plants but so do the American companies.
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Re: Toyota suspending sales of eight recalled cars

It really couldn't have came at a worse time. The car market is picking up, Ford (MAJOR competitor) is winning awards and releasing great cars, they are selling their cars based off quality and not much else. This is good for everyone but Toyota. Makes me somewhat happy to see them go down like this.
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Re: Toyota suspending sales of eight recalled cars

IDK if I say they're going down. Toyota has been a leader in production, marketing and mechanical design. I'm sure they will rebound and they have one of if not the most loyal owner base out their and US business represents a fraction of their sales.

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Re: Toyota suspending sales of eight recalled cars

[quote author=crowdogg link=topic=165920.msg3516756#msg3516756 date=1264601355]
I work for Ford, so this is good news for me. Not that I wish evil upon the competitor, but maybe those people that were going to buy a Camry or Corolla will go buy a Fusion or Focus now!

Support the country you live in, stop buying brand new imports. Once its used, it doesnt really matter because then you are supporting the American used car dealership, but brand new, the money goes to Japan, not America. I know the import companies employ many in the states at the manufacturing plants but so do the American companies.
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everyone is outsourcing parts though...

in fact looky here
http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story....ory=amMade0707

toyota camery was the 2nd ranked most made in america car (in 2007)

also
http://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/DOT.../AALA2009p.pdf

there are a lot of american cars on that list that are made with 60% or less american content...i admit ford is one of the higher ones but you also have the toyota sienna at 85% american content....it is not as cut and dry as it used to be....

sry to rant about this...my dad works for UAW and i was pretty much disowned when i bought my speed3 so we argue about it all the time


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Re: Toyota suspending sales of eight recalled cars

Parts have always been outsourced, that's nothing new. And I didn't mean they were going down, I meant they are down right now. As in, they aren't going to be selling much.
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Re: Toyota suspending sales of eight recalled cars

yea...i just dont see how the money is going to america when 60-70% of the parts are outsourced....sure it may be assembled here but so are many foreign cars with just as much american part content (if not more)...is it a matter of the where the company is located? or the nationality of the people at the top?

when you buy a car in this country you are supporting the local market....by the time the car has entered the states the car manufacturer is completely out of the picture....so support your local car dealer by buying there cars (no matter what the make)...in the end if it is sold on american soil...it is helping the american economy

but.........i do believe we should impose the same import tariffs on imported cars as they do ours....gm in cars in japan are super expensive....yet we continue to allow them to import their cars for next to nothing...granted....it may have made my speed3 a 35k dollar car.......so....FREE TRADE FOR ALL!!!!


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