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US Army OCS

I know there are quite a few people on here in the armed forces (thank you first of all). Is anyone a commissioned officer in the Army? I am interested in applying to OCS for the Army Reserve and wanted some pointer and what to look out for.

What are they looking for? What sort of information should I include in the "Why I want to be an officer" essay? What kinds of people should I put for my references?

Also, how quickly do you advance in the reserves? The recruiter I spoke with yesterday told me itís much quicker than active duty because you only compete for advancements on the local level, not national. She also told me that after OCS and career training there is a good chance to be a 1st LT by then and a captain within 3-4 years (not sure if I believe that).

I understand that if I do this there is a good chance of going to war and that doesn't worry me so no need to tell me that, BTW.

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What are your reasons for wanting to join?

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This is something I have always wanted to do. I'm not doing it for the money (thought it doesn't hurt), I'm doing it for the pride in myself. Every time I see a soldier in uniform I feel a certain amount of respect for him or her. I want to feel that way abut myself. When my brother joined the Air Force I was so proud of him. I've been wanted to serve my country for a long time and never got the courage to go talk to someone about it.

The reason I want to do reserves is because I work for a great company that will allow me to do this, and I own a home and don't want to have to sell it in a down market. If after serving in the reserves for a while and realize its what I want to do full time then I can go active duty.

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You are one of the few I hear doing it for the right reason. I say go for it. I have served for 10 years now, and love it. Well actually this week I am hating it, but thats part of life.

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The only thing I'd say to keep in mind is you may not be accepted to OCS. Not sure what the protocol is on it, but I wouldn't be suprised that if you are rejected for OCS your still in, just as enlisted. I have to ask my buddy who is in the Airforce what the procedure is, but I believe it is join and apply for OCS, basic training and at the end they'll decide to send you to OCS or not.

I could be way, way off base on that though.

Also you mentioned you have a house, keep in mind that if you are deployed in the reserves, unless you have a one of a kind employer, your not going to get your civilian paycheck, just the check from the military. If a low level officer paycheck is enough to live on or the equivelent to what your making now then that is fine. Of course another thing to keep in mind is if you are in, but don't make OCS enlisted pay is a lot less then officer pay (which isn't all that much either).

You certainly do sound like you are doing it for the right reasons and I wish you the best, but just make sure you think over everything first and don't necessarily trust what your recruiter says. They aren't supposed to lie or bend/break rules, but I have known plenty who have done just that.
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So now the reserves are considered to be serving the country?



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[quote author=azazel1024 link=topic=162631.msg3453428#msg3453428 date=1260542869]
The only thing I'd say to keep in mind is you may not be accepted to OCS. Not sure what the protocol is on it, but I wouldn't be suprised that if you are rejected for OCS your still in, just as enlisted. I have to ask my buddy who is in the Airforce what the procedure is, but I believe it is join and apply for OCS, basic training and at the end they'll decide to send you to OCS or not.

I could be way, way off base on that though.

Also you mentioned you have a house, keep in mind that if you are deployed in the reserves, unless you have a one of a kind employer, your not going to get your civilian paycheck, just the check from the military. If a low level officer paycheck is enough to live on or the equivelent to what your making now then that is fine. Of course another thing to keep in mind is if you are in, but don't make OCS enlisted pay is a lot less then officer pay (which isn't all that much either).

You certainly do sound like you are doing it for the right reasons and I wish you the best, but just make sure you think over everything first and don't necessarily trust what your recruiter says. They aren't supposed to lie or bend/break rules, but I have known plenty who have done just that.
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When joining, you are accepted as either enlisted or officer. Its not if you go to basic and don't make officer, you are enlisted. You join for one or the other. Now if they don't accept you as an officer, you can always join enlisted, but its not automatic and is a completely separate process.

Basic training is separate for both as well.

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[quote author=siscim23 link=topic=162631.msg3453938#msg3453938 date=1260566456]
So now the reserves are considered to be serving the country?
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This is either an ignorant post, sarcasm, are hateful. I don't know which.

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[quote author=Eternal link=topic=162631.msg3454118#msg3454118 date=1260576389]
[quote author=azazel1024 link=topic=162631.msg3453428#msg3453428 date=1260542869]
The only thing I'd say to keep in mind is you may not be accepted to OCS. Not sure what the protocol is on it, but I wouldn't be suprised that if you are rejected for OCS your still in, just as enlisted. I have to ask my buddy who is in the Airforce what the procedure is, but I believe it is join and apply for OCS, basic training and at the end they'll decide to send you to OCS or not.

I could be way, way off base on that though.

Also you mentioned you have a house, keep in mind that if you are deployed in the reserves, unless you have a one of a kind employer, your not going to get your civilian paycheck, just the check from the military. If a low level officer paycheck is enough to live on or the equivelent to what your making now then that is fine. Of course another thing to keep in mind is if you are in, but don't make OCS enlisted pay is a lot less then officer pay (which isn't all that much either).

You certainly do sound like you are doing it for the right reasons and I wish you the best, but just make sure you think over everything first and don't necessarily trust what your recruiter says. They aren't supposed to lie or bend/break rules, but I have known plenty who have done just that.
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When joining, you are accepted as either enlisted or officer. Its not if you go to basic and don't make officer, you are enlisted. You join for one or the other. Now if they don't accept you as an officer, you can always join enlisted, but its not automatic and is a completely separate process.

Basic training is separate for both as well.
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Good to know. My info was rather out of date and from a very jaded ROTC guy in college (who wasn't exactly the brightest bulb).
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[quote author=Eternal link=topic=162631.msg3454120#msg3454120 date=1260576429]
[quote author=siscim23 link=topic=162631.msg3453938#msg3453938 date=1260566456]
So now the reserves are considered to be serving the country?
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This is either an ignorant post, sarcasm, are hateful. I don't know which.
[/quote]Lol okay sir.

I'll just say it's based on me having no respect for the military. I see the military as a back up plan in case you fail at life.



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