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What are your thoughts on Obama bowing to Emperor Akihito?

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whats the big deal? Isnt that respectfull?


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people are bitching because him bowing lower in their culture shows "inferiority"

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Re: President bows to Japan's Emperor

in Japan it is considered disrespectful to not bow during a formal introduction. I would say that Obama (or one of his aides) being knowledgeable enough to bow when greeting someone there is probably a good thing. Bowing is not a sign of inferiority....its not like their culture over there is as based on dick measuring like it is on our side of the pond.

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Re: President bows to Japan's Emperor

so he bowed lower? was he actually in Japan when this meeting took place? I assume so since maybe he stopped by on his way back from China. If this is the case, I would say it is really not showing inferiority, its kinda like being a guest in someone elses place. Its kinda like saying he knows who runs the show here, and sets a tone for a good meeting.

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Re: President bows to Japan's Emperor

I agree it is respectful in their culture, but in ours, the President is to never bow to another leader. I think the problem is a conflict of cultures which UNFORTUNATELY is impossible to avoid.

I think he was TOTALLY wrong for bowing to him. Other military members will understand this better than most. But this runs along the lines of the flag issues. The US flag NEVER EVER EVER is flown lower than any nations flag, EVER. No matter what, the US flag is to never be displayed at a lower level than a foreign nations flag.
This sucks for other nations, but is part of our culture.

Goes the same way for the President/Commander in Chief. Him bowing to another nation, shows disrespect to ours and that we are BELOW them.
But to not bow shows disrespect to the foreign diplomat. Its a double edged sword.

The way to mitigate it, like other presidents have done, is to bow, but not to bow fully. It shows respect, but keeps our society's CULTURE in tact. I think prior to this DEBACLE, no one new about this. So therefor don't understand the importance of it.

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Wow. Really..This is a problem? Him bowing lower? Seriously? You got to be kidding me.

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Re: President bows to Japan's Emperor

[quote author=Eternal link=topic=161233.msg3425094#msg3425094 date=1258698317]
I agree it is respectful in their culture, but in ours, the President is to never bow to another leader. I think the problem is a conflict of cultures which UNFORTUNATELY is impossible to avoid.

I think he was TOTALLY wrong for bowing to him. Other military members will understand this better than most. But this runs along the lines of the flag issues. The US flag NEVER EVER EVER is flown lower than any nations flag, EVER. No matter what, the US flag is to never be displayed at a lower level than a foreign nations flag.
This sucks for other nations, but is part of our culture.

Goes the same way for the President/Commander in Chief. Him bowing to another nation, shows disrespect to ours and that we are BELOW them.
But to not bow shows disrespect to the foreign diplomat. Its a double edged sword.

The way to mitigate it, like other presidents have done, is to bow, but not to bow fully. It shows respect, but keeps our society's CULTURE in tact. I think prior to this DEBACLE, no one new about this. So therefor don't understand the importance of it.
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What the fack. Really? Him bowing doesn't insult me. I think this is going to far.

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yeah it was in Japan. But as the same goes for flags, its an always thing, not a location thing. I have visted, lived in, been stationed in, over 30 nations. And the US flag is ALWAYS higher than the local nations, even in their home countries.
If it were to be lower, and us (US) to allow it, would show inferiority to them, and show the perception of them walking all over us and ignoring our culture. It simply does not happen.

But I think its BS, that we should be able to set rules in foreign nations like that. And I think we SHOULD be able to bow to the Japanese emperor to show respect, but culture says otherwise.

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whatever...hes better than that dumb monkey fuck bush


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