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So its not just private citizens that cops hate

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/23/okl...ded/index.html

Its the paramedics too.

The story doesn't mention it, but I suspect that the Ambulance didn't have its lights on at the time, thus the stop. That being said, just like plenty of other incidents, if the fricken cop would actually take 15 damn seconds to verify the story, this would all have a happy ending.
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Re: So its not just private citizens that cops hate

I think this happened a while ago...good to see some justice was brought forth to the trooper. You can find videos, from the camera in the trooper's car, showing the entire incident.

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There are two videos online for this. One is the trooper's dash cam, the second is the iphone video of son of the patient after the trooper pulls them over. Here's the synopsis.

-Trooper is responding to a stolen car report to assist the county PD, is driving emergency very fast
-Trooper comes up on an ambulance very quickly (at that speed his siren doesn't go very far), car in front of ambulance pulls over, ambulance not seeing trooper swerves around the car, then he pulls over after seeing the trooper. Trooper blows past the ambulance, then calls them on the radio and states in a sarcastic tone, "Gee, you think you would've been looking in your mirrors.".
-Trooper goes another mile or so to where he was going is on scene for approx. 16 seconds and doesn't get out of his car before....
-Ambulance passes scene, trooper says the driver makes a rude gesture at him, trooper goes flying out of the parking lot and chases down the ambulance, the ambulance seeing the trooper this time pulls over to let him pass and he stops behind them.
-person driving ambulance gets out to meet the trooper and the trooper starts yelling at him
-medic gets out of the back and very calmly states his name, that he's the paramedic in charge of the ambulance and that if he wants to talk to them he can follow them to the ER and do it after they've dropped off their patient. All very professional and, exactly what I would have done in the situation.
-The trooper (being very angry) interrupts the medic multiple times and then says he's going to arrest him for.... something.... probably for disagreeing with the trooper. The trooper tries to grab the medic and pushes him against the ambulance to cuff him, the medic resists and by this time about 7 members of the patient's family who'd been following the ambulance are making a mob around the ambulance and yelling at the trooper (white redneck trooper, black family/patient/medic).
-The trooper retreats and calls for back up, the medic gets back in the truck, family dissipates.
-the trooper walks to the front of the ambulance and yells at the driver (literally) about "respecting his authoritah!".
-Second trooper shows up, medic gets out and tells that trooper that he wants to press charges against the first trooper for assaulting a paramedic (higher felony than assaulting a paramedic in many states), first trooper states that the medic is under arrest and grabs the medic by the throat until he stops struggling.
-At this point the trooper, maybe deciding he did the wrong thing, tells the medic to transport to the ER and that they'll meet them there and arrest him. ambulance goes to the ER. No troopers show up to arrest him.

Facts:
-the trooper was recently back from Iraq
-the trooper was obviously angry the entire time
-from some reports the trooper had his wife in the car for some inexplicable reason
-the trooper did assault a paramedic and was out of line in wanting to arrest him, especially in these circumstances.
-the medic resisted arrest. Out of line or not once the trooper decided to arrest him he shouldn't have fought him off. If he hadn't things would have gone much differently.

Case in point about five or six years ago a fire engine responded to a wreck. The car in question was mostly on the shoulder of an 8 lane highway protruding slightly into the right lane. Several police cars had parked behind the car, and one parked in the right lane, the ambulance parked on the shoulder in front of the car. The engine parked in the second from the right lane to the left of the car to provide a protected area for them to work in, leaving two lanes open. As soon as they park the Captain gets out of the engine and runs over the car. At the same time an officer goes up to the engine's passenger window and tells him to pull his truck up ahead of the ambulance and unblock the lane. The Captain goes back to the engine and tells the driver not to move the vehicle. The officer walks back up and again tells the engine to move, the Captain tells them not to. The officer begins arguing with the Captain then grabs him, cuffs him, and throws him in the back of his car. Incidentally the ranking Fire Dept. representative on a roadway has the FINAL authority to close a roadway... not the police.

The officer was fined $18,000 for interfering with a rescue operation and lost his job. If the medic in Oklahoma had not resisted that's probably what would have happened, instead they both got slaps on the wrist and sent back to work.


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Too funny!
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Interesting. I can't see the videos from work, so good to know the actual synopsis.

Does sound like the paramedic could have maybe handled things better, but then again I honestly don't know that I would have been able to in his position. As you said, probably to bad he didn't...sounds like one cop who needs some serious anger management/counciling.
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Yeah I remember seeing this awhile ago. I hope that cop isn't in law enforcement anymore because his definitely power hungry. His personality trait doesn't fit with law enforcement at all.

azazel1024, I believe there is a whole website dedicated to this incident. It includes 15mins worth of videos for you to view straight from the police officer's patrol cam. A few clips from someone with a cell phone cam. Just google it shouldn't be hard to find.


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[quote author=phan95 link=topic=151235.msg3243082#msg3243082 date=1248373363]
Yeah I remember seeing this awhile ago. I hope that cop isn't in law enforcement anymore because his definitely power hungry. His personality trait doesn't fit with law enforcement at all.

azazel1024, I believe there is a whole website dedicated to this incident. It includes 15mins worth of videos for you to view straight from the police officer's patrol cam. A few clips from someone with a cell phone cam. Just google it shouldn't be hard to find.
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He was suspended briefly during the investigation about it but didn't lose his job. Neither party ended up with charges pressed against them.


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