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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-18-2009, 09:35 PM Thread Starter
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Eugenics in America needed?

Don't get all excited...i know this will never happen in our lifetime...but gee wiz....it's darn right scary to see who is making babies these days....

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Re: Eugenics in America needed?

You need a license to get married and to drive a car, but any dumbass can have a kid. Stupid people produce stupid children, and lots of them. Middle class people wait to have kids until they can afford it. Lower class people have kids so they can get more government aid. It's absolutely ridiculous.
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Re: Eugenics in America needed?

Eugenics has been used quite a bit up until 1980 with people with disabilities. If I were 3 years older (I am 46), I would be subject to the practice since I have a physical disability. At one time it was thought that people with disabilities were thought of as incapable of being a parent.

That said, what is shown in the article, is not unheard of. It would not be up to me, or anyone here to say whether or not people like that should be incapable of being a parent. That would be up to CPS and a judge on an individual basis.

[quote author=shawngreen link=topic=145454.msg3130601#msg3130601 date=1242697938]
You need a license to get married and to drive a car, but any dumbass can have a kid. Stupid people produce stupid children, and lots of them. Middle class people wait to have kids until they can afford it. Lower class people have kids so they can get more government aid. It's absolutely ridiculous.
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It does not work out that way in all cases. You also can't judge people just on income alone either. What if you were low income and someone decided to sterialize you based on that?
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Iv seen worse

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Re: Eugenics in America needed?

lol.

a drunk-driving, dope-smoking, in-car-screwing with the kids in the back, inbred-looking loser of a mother
and her scary-ass, slingblade-looking, dude from Deliverance boyfriend....

just fucking great.

with the kids in the car...possibly making more potentially mentally deficient offspring (as a result of genetics and developmental issue caused by the mother drinking and smoking during pregnancy). somebody hand me a 12-gauge.

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Re: Eugenics in America needed?

[quote author=ITHURTZ link=topic=145454.msg3130789#msg3130789 date=1242705829]
Iv seen worse
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I probably have seen worse than you.
My parents were foster parents for years and had over 250 kids and saw this:
Had a 9 month old who weighed 8.5 pounds. Parents starved the child.
Had a 11 month old girl who was thrown against a brick wall. Her heart and lungs were knocked out of place and surgery had to be performed.
A set of identical twin boys (from the time they got out of the hospital) who were drug addicted and were profoundly disabled as a result.

Over the years as a teacher I've came across:
A young boy with schizophrenia who was beat on by his parents because he was not normal and easy to care for.
Multiple cases of neglect, sexual and physical abuse by family members, friends and people they know.


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Re: Eugenics in America needed?

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i never cared much for kids... until my niece came around. now it just makes me rage when i hear about people abusing a child.

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[quote author=stephanie link=topic=145454.msg3132244#msg3132244 date=1242775151]
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i never cared much for kids... until my niece came around. now it just makes me rage when i hear about people abusing a child.
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I've always cared for/liked kids. A lot of the kids my parents had (who were old enough) would come to me before they went to them. I have known about abuse as a child through the work my parents were doing. Although I never was exposed directly to abusive situations, the after-effects of the kids who lived with us were not only noticed, but having kids who were abused around, I learned early on that getting angry would not be the best thing..

As far as rage, that would be quite normal, but it won't do much good if you understand the bond between the parent and child (abuser and victim) is quite strong. Many kids who have been abused by their parents do not want to be separated from them due to that tight bond. They are as traumatized by the separation as the actual abuse. Some of them actually return to the parents once they become old enough to make their own decisions. You can say the parents should not be parents till you are blue in the face, the kid will not have that or see it that way.

Abuse is not limited to parents. I have had to cover classrooms where the teacher was the abuser and a student was a victim and once a teacher was the abuser and another child was a victim. A couple years ago, I covered a class where the male teacher was absent for some reason and I found he was scheduled in court for a child molestation charge. The kids in the class were asking what happened to the teacher and was expecting the truth, which at the time, I hadn't looked it up yet. When I found out, I was in a tricky position of not only informing the principal, but answering the kids questions when the teacher was going to be back. Another case I was in was a few months later a female teacher (4th grade, like the male teacher) was put on leave, and one of her students was the subject of her sexual antics.

Getting pissed off never did me any good.
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Re: Eugenics in America needed?

i never plan on having kids so i never will know the parent/child bond but still, every time i hear a story about child abuse, it makes me just want to hug my niece and never let her go

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Re: Eugenics in America needed?

My first and honest answer is yes, but there really is no fair way to make that call, so I voted maybe.

I coach kids' soccer and my mother's a teacher, so I've come across a few stories. The link shows some clearly deficient thinking, but luckily no direct abuse. It still makes me a bit sad that the kids will grow up with that.

What really makes me shudder is when I think about what my cousin has seen. He does computer forensics...
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