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Pending bills in NY state that could legalize "Consumer Fireworks"

Currently, NY is one of 5 states that bans all consumer fireworks but there are two pending bills right now that could change this. One is for the legalization of "Safe & Sane" fireworks (aka S&S) which include items like sparklers, fountains, novelty items, etc. and the other would require a citizen to get a permit (like PA) that would allow them to then purchase firecrackers, rockets, repeaters (cakes) and reloadables. Similar bills have come up before but have never made it into law. Last year, it passed assembly but our new governor refused to sign off on it.

This year, it is looking more promising and one of the big factors has been letters snail mailed to our state leaders asking for their support of these bills. These letters have included such facts as the lost revenue since so many people travel to CT and PA to purchase their fireworks and bring them into NY, regardless of the law. This is money not being spent in NY, taxes not collected in NY and likely goes into the millions each year. They have also included statistics provided by the National Council on Fireworks Safety that shows that since 1976, injury rates have decreased even though the sales of LEGAL consumer fireworks has increased more than 10 fold. The reason for this was the legalization of fireworks, which decreased the black market sales, promoted firework education through knowledgeable retailers and the control of their production/imports by the CPSC. So, if you have the time, please contact your senators and assemblymen and ask for their support of these bills.

Now, the Department of Labor somehow has stuck their noses into this and along with our 2009 State Budget, they snuck in language that would essentially make the possession of a sparkler, or even a party popper, a felony in NYS. This of course is absolutely ludicrous.

If you live in NY and want to see the laws changed, I encourage you to visit these sites for more information
http://www.americanpyro.com/pdf/2008...work%20Map.pdf
http://www.fireworksafety.com/statistics.htm

I also encourage you to visit the forums at www.pyrouniverse.com and check out this thread (it's a long one)
http://www.pyrouniverse.com/forum/sh...78&page=23
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I'm all for legalizing fireworks. Just insures a steady flow of hilarious (but painful) youtube videos.
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[quote author=fatabbot link=topic=143545.msg3092310#msg3092310 date=1241022367]
I'm all for legalizing fireworks. Just insures a steady flow of hilarious (but painful) youtube videos.
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Not necessarily. One part of the permit bill would require a safety course before a permit is granted. Also, as numbers have demonstrated, legalization has lead to less accidents. Most people in NY think an M-80 or blockbuster is a type of firework which is not true - these are illegal explosives and were never intended for civilian use.
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I'm for a full ban of all fireworks. To me, they are pointless and an antiquated tradition. Of course, I've never been one to "blow stuff up and watch it burn".

Most importantly, the noise from fireworks reek havoc on house pets and wildlife.

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I'm for a full ban of all fireworks. To me, they are pointless and an antiquated tradition. Of course, I've never been one to "blow stuff up and watch it burn".

Most importantly, the noise from fireworks reek havoc on house pets and wildlife.
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By your rationale, we should ban cars with "antiquated" combustion engines too.
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Hmmm, not really. Cars are somewhat of a need, where fireworks are a needless want.

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Hmmm, not really. Cars are somewhat of a need, where fireworks are a needless want.
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But they still do their damage. As it is your right, you can always lobby and campaign for the complete ban on fireworks although as a mod here, it would be nice if you let this thread stay on topic, which is specific to the legalization of consumer fireworks in NY, allowed by the federal government and legal in 45 states, including WA.
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This is a forum; if you post your viewpoint expect a counter viewpoint as we will not all agree. And, I've been on topic!

The state of WA has a ban on all fireworks except for Indian reservations. Should our local governments decide to overturn the ban you can expect I will be out in full force opposing such an overturn.

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I definitely don't think fireworks should be banned. They usually only hurt those that are setting them off, rather than innocent bystanders. As far as it being an antiquated tradition, that's kinda insulting (although I know you didn't mean it as such). It's still an event looked forward to by millions of Americans every year to celebrate our independence. Just don't think some laser or hologram show could really replace it....
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Fatabbot, thanks for the call out, I should have been more specific. While I'm not a fan of officially sponsored Fourth of July fireworks, I do not oppose them. They are a family gathering and provide revenue to merchants. It is the "fireworks at home" types that I feel should have a complete ban.

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