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post #1 of 66 (permalink) Old 11-24-2008, 03:08 PM Thread Starter
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Just heard on the news that GM is ending it's endorsement contract with Tiger Woods effective immediately. They must really be hurting......or is it just posturing for some government money??????

On the same topic......has anyone stopped to think of our world today without the big three automakers???
1) hundreds of thousands of people out of work.
2)Shortage of cars world wide
3) Cars become a commodity of the rich and famous,because the shortage has driven the prices so high that us common folk could no longer afford them
4)The quality of all Asian and European cars will drop drastically because of the pressure to build more and more cars.


Just some food for thought......lol
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Shortage of cars? Higher prices? Not going to happen, period. It would be fairly cost effective for Toyota/Honda/Nissan, etc. to buy GM/Chrysler plants in liquidation and retool them in order to add domestic production capability.
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+1. not to mention replace most of those jobs too

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Higher prices could happen, but it would have more to do with the strength of the yen and the overall economic environment.
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[quote author=fatabbot link=topic=129262.msg2766348#msg2766348 date=1227557567]
Shortage of cars? Higher prices? Not going to happen, period. It would be fairly cost effective for Toyota/Honda/Nissan, etc. to buy GM/Chrysler plants in liquidation and retool them in order to add domestic production capability.
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Ding ding ding. We have a winner. Toyota/Honda/Nissan will come out with a mint of opportunity when GM/Chrysler fail. Ford won't fail due to them having $16 billion in cash reserves. They are just talking to the gov't to get free hand me outs. GM and Chrysler have no cash and no hope of survival. I hope the gov't doesn't stick their hands in this auto business.

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And as for competition, if you think Mazda, Toyota, Nissan and Honda are just going to rest on their laurels...well I mean they have each other to compete with still, at least in the US market, not to mention all the other markets! No, they'll keep on innovating and competing quite nicely I think. Only thing I can see is that while they might buy the Big 3s' plants and hire most of the workers, there would still be a number of positions they probably wouldn't keep to avoid duplication of responsibilities. Why would Mazda pay Ford's design team when they have their own? Especially given that it would be the people who came up with a whole lot of crap that Ford has been putting on the road lately


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Aside from the job losses, what’s the upside for America being in the auto manufacturing biz? It’s a low margin, high risk beast- and only a high quality and reasonably priced product can give a chance of success… and that is if everything is managed perfectly.

There are lot better businesses to be in.

Yes we ‘invented’ the automobile, but that was 100 years ago and lots has change, so doing it for nostalgia is pretty stupid.

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[quote author=HitIt link=topic=129262.msg2766520#msg2766520 date=1227560940]
Aside from the job losses, what’s the upside for America being in the auto manufacturing biz? It’s a low margin, high risk beast- and only a high quality and reasonably priced product can give a chance of success… and that is if everything is managed perfectly.

There are lot better businesses to be in.

Yes we ‘invented’ the automobile, but that was 100 years ago and lots has change, so doing it for nostalgia is pretty stupid.

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Never thought about it that way, but that is very true.

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As I stated in my initial post,"food for thought" for sure. Just want to throw something else out there. It seem to be concensus that the Asian owned manufacturers would step up and simply buy the defunct plants....re-tool..and bingo...increased production ....little or no "car shortage" .....hire back out-of-work workers. Sounds great. But what about the unions. It's often said( and I don't necessairly agree) that the big powerful unions are part of the problems. So,where do the unions stand in this scenario?????
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