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post #1 of 65 (permalink) Old 10-28-2008, 01:24 AM Thread Starter
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automated rolling stop sign ticket

I just got a rolling stop sign ticket, similar to a running a red light ticket, except there is an officer who reviews the tape at the end of the day and determines if you ran the stop sign.

The camera is at top of topanga canyon blvd in Malibu, CA.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sadd...p;t=h&z=19

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpaGqO7HY0A

EDIT: PAID.

I agree with the majority that it is my "civic duty" to admit that I broke the law, but I also think think that as part of my "civic duty" I should appeal to the design of that intersection. Unfortunately the process to do the latter is much more time consuming than paying a fine. I should also question why resources would be allocated in a rural area such as that one, and why my tax dollars are enforcing a trivial intersection when there are many other places that could have used this "safety measure".

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Re: automated rolling stop sign ticket

Definitely contest, if you don't go to court your guilty=pay fine, traffic school or point. Go to court and you have a chance at reduced fine or maybe some other option, community service, probation. I know this from experience, I had a rash of tickets in 07' (4 in 6 months) 2 were moving violations. Stop sign and speeding, took traffic school for the speeding, (would have fought it but it was in a county not close to home and cost versus time spent weighed out in my decision.) Fought the stop sign and got off with probation no fine/or point. If I had not gone I would have received the fine, 1 point, and probably a higher insurance rate. The other 2 tickets were tinted windows front and loud exhaust. Remove tint fix it $10. The loud exhaust I went to court after going to a state referee who confirmed my exhaust was under the legal limit in CA. I provided a state certificate of proof to the court and $10 later got off without having to do anything else. If I hadn't tried I would have had to put the stock exhaust back on (which I had sold) or pay a hefty fine if I didn't fix it. It would have been a pricey fix either way. If you have a choice go to court, you at least have a chance to plead your case. In a lot of cases a judge will give you a reduced fine if you come up with a decent argument, (hardship or something.) If you don't go you will automatically lose. It's your right to defend yourself in a court of law even for what we might consider minor traffic infractions. Just be prepared and present a well thought out case so the court doesn't think your just wasting the their time...
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Re: automated rolling stop sign ticket

wow... this is the first time i have ever heard of a automated rolling stop sign ticket... cali seems to be really harsh on everything... how do you guys deal with it... that really sucks dude


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Re: automated rolling stop sign ticket

i dont see how you have a chance without a study done by the DOT. its a stop sign, you have to stop. i have rolled my fair share of stop signs too, and i think its bs that you got a ticket, but from a judge perspective the law was broken.

this is the first time i heard of this kind of cam too.


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Re: automated rolling stop sign ticket

Good luck...I wouldn't bother contesting that. It is clear from the video that you ran the stop sign. Now, whether the sign should be a stop or a yield is a different matter altogther. I guarantee you that you will not be able to get out of the ticket by trying to convince the judge it should be a yield. Even if it should be a yield, fact is it was a stop sign that you rolled through and you will have to pay the ticket for it...simple as that.

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Wow this is deff a new one. Around here in NY they sit on a side street and watch the stop sign. If you roll they chase. If you use that sign every day you know they are going to be there. If its just a camera watching they are going to catch many more people. Seems unfair. It would seem an argument could be made by a lawyer that an officer needs to be present to witness this.

Not to get off subject but last ticket I got was Laser at night in the dark (7 yrs ago). By the time I saw his headlight rings it was too late (he was parked opposite side of the street in the dark lights out). A very unfair trap IMO. When I sent in the money and ticket I overpaid by $5. When the state sent me my $5 change in the form of a check I ripped up the check and thru it away. NY had a glitch in the software that if you never cashed the check the points would never make it to your license. It worked...no points.

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Re: automated rolling stop sign ticket

Did you put the video up on youtube or did the cop?


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Re: automated rolling stop sign ticket

since it's video surveillance, you'll only get the fine...not points. they can't prove it's you in the car, but they can prove that it's your car. if you're willing to give up a day of your time, i would reply with a request to go to court. if $100 is worth it to you to avoid a hassle, then i wouldn't bother.
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So police are using instant replay now...........revenue making at it's best.

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you ran the stop sign dude, just pay the ticket.

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