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Verizon Wireless to Get iPhone (!!?)

Well check this bit of rather interesting news...

http://www.9to5mac.com/cdma-iphone-verizon-sprint

"We've fielded a couple of tips (some more sketchy than others) about EVDO iPhones floating around Cupertino in the past, but today's tipster seems a little bit more sure of himself. Besides having some Verizon insider credentials, he seems to know way too much about Verizon-Apple politics. According to him, Apple will be announcing iPhones for Verizon Wireless in 2009, perhaps as early Macworld 2009. Negotiations between Apple and Verizon are ongoing but they expect to hammer out agreements by the end of the year.
This isn't a huge surprise for a number of reasons:
Apple has been scouting out EVDO and CDMA Engineers for months in their online iPhone job postings (here, here, here and here). Yes, some of these skills overlap with UTMS and CDMA can also refer to the broad swath of 3G Technologies...but come on...don't put "EVDO" on the job description if it ain't true.. (BTW, WiMax is also littered throughout Apple's Job postings...interesting/digress)
No matter how big AT&T is and how much range they cover, leaving out Verizon and to a lesser extent Sprint, will be eliminating a broad swath of the US wireless market. If Apple is serious about competing with Blackberry, Symbian and Android, they will have to broaden their carrier footprint. One carrier does not a platform make. Apple will need a way to grow its market after AT&T is saturated.
LTE technology won't be mature until well into 2010. Apple can't afford to wait that long to broaden its carrier footprint
Who is happy with Rogers in Canada (*crickets*)? EVDO opens up to new carriers there as well.
Verizon wireless is a partnership between Verizon communications and Vodafone. Vodafone, you'll recall, has contracts with Apple for iPhones in around 15 markets around the world. Apple has a working relationship with Vodafone (and Tmobile obviously).
Apple has just started going "Open" in a few markets, including Hong Kong. This will likely increase the number of unlocked 3G iPhones on the world market (South Africa is also open). While this won't benefit Verizon directly, it certainly shows that Apple is considering being more "carrier agnostic."
Tim Cook, famously said that Apple wasn't married to the one carrier/country model. As Apple expands, it is going more and more open.
Verizon's iPhone Cheat sheet was weak and their arguments about Stevo getting old were silly. They'd rather play ball with Apple than try to defend itself against it.
Apple originally wanted to go with Verizon for the iPhone. Some of the original disagreements included "not carrying the iPhone at Best Buy and hardware reliability" - see quote below. AT&T was a second choice. When Verizon balked, Apple went to AT&T...Think Verizon is happy about that decision (no) or willing to reconsider Apple's overtures (yes)?
According to Verizon, Apple CEO Steve Jobs insisted that he have hard control over iPhone distribution.
The problem? While Apple and Verizon stores would have it, Wal-Mart, Best Buy and other Verizon distributors could have been left out. "That would have put our own distribution partners at a disadvantage" to Apple and Verizon stores, Gerace said.
Customer care was another hitch: If an iPhone went haywire, Apple wanted sole discretion over whether to replace or repair the phone. "They would have been stepping in between us and our customers to the point where we would have almost had to take a back seat on hardware and service support," Gerace says.
The number one reason people think AT&T is the only US carrier that Apple will visit is because a couple of falsely reported rumors by USA Today that "revealed" Apple has signed exclusivity deals with AT&T. Depending on whether you trust the original article which said it would be five years or the latest article which says two years, or any of the other speculation out there (CNN says 2009), nothing public has ever been uncovered that has specified the length of AT&T-Apple exclusivity deals, if one exists. A Macworld 2009 launch would put the AT&T-Apple exclusivity at 18 months, WWDC 2009 would be 2 years.
There is no reason why Apple wouldn't also be chatting with Sprint and T-mobile about possible deals as well. We welcome some carrier competition in the US iPhone field.
The sooner the better."

Interesting bit for discussion! I would def cancel my att contract in an instant if this happens!


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As I said in the iPod thread, if this is true I'll be getting an iPhone when my verizon contract is up for renewal. I'll be able to stream my iTunes library from home on the go using Simplify!


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for sure this is possibly big news. hell if its on boygenius as well... its gotta be pretty big.


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I finally broke off my Verizon family plan for the iPhone 3G. I absolutely hate the AT&T service. Tons of dropped calls, missed calls that never show up on my phone, and text messages that never get to me. Absolutely rediculous. Although the latest patch seems to have fixed a lot of the problems.

I never had a problem with Verizon's service. I wouldn't say I'd cancel my AT&T contract for this, but it sure is tempting.

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As neat as it is...for me the novelty of a full touch screen would wear off quickly.
I like having actual buttons. I am currently trying to find a new phone from verizon but really dont like any of them right now.

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[quote author=Garzilly link=topic=124799.msg2651189#msg2651189 date=1222704498]
I finally broke off my Verizon family plan for the iPhone 3G. I absolutely hate the AT&T service. Tons of dropped calls, missed calls that never show up on my phone, and text messages that never get to me. Absolutely rediculous. Although the latest patch seems to have fixed a lot of the problems.

I never had a problem with Verizon's service. I wouldn't say I'd cancel my AT&T contract for this, but it sure is tempting.
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same here, it doesnt compare to verizon..


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idk...with the new touch screen blackberry coming out and all the problems with the i-phone I may opt for the blackberry


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AT&T is the big service provider in the south if you don't live in Metropolitan areas. I live in Arkansas where only Sprint, Alltel, and AT&T are really offered easily. I have AT&T and haven't had any big issues, but I also don't use it to it's full potential. Ever since I got my blackjack II I've had some dropped call issues, but I haven't really had any text message issues. I usually run into problems when I call my voicemail, because sometimes it doesn't want to connect. I've heard a lot of people enjoy Verizon, but where I live it's not widely used. I only use AT&T for text messaging, because I only call a handfull of people on my phone. I have some friends and family that are long winded and would eat up all my anytime minutes!

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[quote author=Rocketeer link=topic=124799.msg2651198#msg2651198 date=1222704649]
As neat as it is...for me the novelty of a full touch screen would wear off quickly.
I like having actual buttons. I am currently trying to find a new phone from verizon but really dont like any of them right now.


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Agreed, Verizon has pretty much NO good phones. There was a while when T-Mobile had a TON of nice-looking phones, but then again it's T-Mobile, you know?


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The big uproar is Sprint used to offer the best phones on the market before they merged with Nextel. Sprint lost so much money on that deal and customer service was terrible. Now Verizon and AT&T own the market share on the phone market. Verizon I hear offers better service, but AT&T will always offer the best phones due to where they are located. AT&T is all over the nation, while Verizon is only in select areas. I know for a fact that it's not available in Fort Smith, AR. The only way we could get it was with an area code of 501 from Little Rock if they offer the service. We have some Alltel stores so it will be very interesting if they remain open once the signage is changed to Verizon.

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