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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-04-2008, 06:07 PM Thread Starter
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Excuse my rambling about driving, but I want opinions...

Alright, this rant started out of hatred with Wisconsin and Illinois left lane bandits. Then just observing people driving made me think to write this thread and relieve some steam.

Out of all of the bureaucratic BS that we deal with, licensing new drivers and the conditions of cars should get more attention than enforcing other laws such as speeding and all that other crap. I still can't believe that some people can come into a BMV (or DMV depending on where you live) take what I think is an easy-as-pie test, do a half-assed 10 minute road test and be licensed. I think this is the first flaw with the system.

When I took driver's training, I only had to have 6 hours drive time with an instructor and the class itself and the 100 question test was retardedly easy. The course really only covers driving defensively, and not offensively. They really don't cover how to handle traffic, how to not be tense while driving, and other things that would probably lighten a lot of people up. Changing lanes seems to be new drivers weaknesses, mainly because they are afraid to take their eyes off the road to look in the mirror or quickly glance over their shoulder. Also, they don't teach people to be more aware of their surroundings such as cars you've past and how to identify potential road hazards/conditions based on the small amount of feedback you receive through the steering wheel or the whole car itself. On top of that, they never teach people to be courteous to others! Everyone seems to drive for themselves, whether they are hauling ass or going on a Sunday drive. On top of this short list, I'm really sick of most of the drivers not knowing how to change a tire, check oil, or how to check/replace bad lightbulbs. I want to hear everyone's opinion on this...am I wrong to ask for the following changes?

1. More drive time.
Instead of only having 100 hours or whatever your state has currently, they should have to drive with a parent/guardian/21-or-older driver for a minimum of two years. This should allow for a driver to get a little more confident behind the wheel. Lower the permit age to 14 (or raise the licensing age to 17)
2. Make drivers drive on a "test track"
We all know how rain and snow can alter a cars handling and traction, but instead of talking about it in the classroom, have a course to actually have them experience it in a qausi-safe way. Better to find out and learn how to take corrective action here than on the road/
3.Teach basic maintenance
I think even if an hour or two section was started on this with an actual test for changing flat tires, it would get these people actually aware of stuff and at least have SOME knowledge.

And then to conditions of vehicles. This might have stemmed from me being a neat freak, but seeing cars with improperly inflated tires, bad/no shocks/struts (you know, the cars that literally bounce down the road), and burned out headlights/taillights and blinkers totally grinds my gears. I think vehicles over a certain age should have to be inspected for this simple "safety" stuff. The reason I say a certain age is because for the most part, I see new cars with all their lights on and the car mostly in good shape. But those older cars (you know the ones I'm talking about) are in rough shape, and I believe they are a danger to us on the road (and more than likely, so is the driver driving it!)...

So thank for listening, and I want to see if for the most part, people agree with me



I feel better now :P
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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-04-2008, 06:29 PM
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Re: Excuse my rambling about driving, but I want opinions...

Agree.

I didnt get my license til 18, and the only accident I have been a part of was not my fault. I feel more time is needed behind the wheel, and emergency manuvers (or pushing the car above the limit ie track time) should be a large part of extended drivers learning.

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Re: Excuse my rambling about driving, but I want opinions...

Agreed wholeheartedly.

Try working a week or two in the auto parts industry, its worse by far. I love it when people come in asking for a part, lets say, an oil filter. Ok fine, no big deal right? Wrong. When you ask them if they have a 4 or 6 cylinder engine so you can determine which filter they need and their response is "I don't know." Thats a pretty damn good sign right there, that they in turn should not be working on a car, let alone driving.

If you are so inept that you don't know what type of engine your car has, I'm fairly confident you shouldn't be driving.

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Re: Excuse my rambling about driving, but I want opinions...

disagree because you have michican as your avatar...

buckeyes ftw!
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Re: Excuse my rambling about driving, but I want opinions...

[quote author=smokinAMD link=topic=119559.msg2516257#msg2516257 date=1217889434]
Agreed wholeheartedly.

Try working a week or two in the auto parts industry, its worse by far. I love it when people come in asking for a part, lets say, an oil filter. Ok fine, no big deal right? Wrong. When you ask them if they have a 4 or 6 cylinder engine so you can determine which filter they need and their response is "I don't know." Thats a pretty damn good sign right there, that they in turn should not be working on a car, let alone driving.

If you are so inept that you don't know what type of engine your car has, I'm fairly confident you shouldn't be driving.
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My favorite is ppl who dont know how to change their tire if they get a blowout, which is more probable with them too since tire rotations, tire pressure, will go unchecked\undone.

Think about the profit dealerships and mechanics make off these people too, it probably keeps them in buisness.
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Re: Excuse my rambling about driving, but I want opinions...

[quote author=aaronc7 link=topic=119559.msg2516268#msg2516268 date=1217889649]
disagree because you have michican as your avatar...

buckeyes ftw!
[/quote]OH HELL NO! It's on now!

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Re: Excuse my rambling about driving, but I want opinions...

[quote author=WetsuitxNinja link=topic=119559.msg2516269#msg2516269 date=1217889672]
My favorite is ppl who dont know how to change their tire if they get a blowout, which is more probable with them too since tire rotations, tire pressure, will go unchecked\undone.

Think about the profit dealerships and mechanics make off these people too, it probably keeps them in buisness.
[/quote]Yeah, I love it when I see people with 2 different tire brands with different tread and wear. I think the bad thing is, people just don't care. They say "its just a vehicle". Those are the people that need more schooling...
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Re: Excuse my rambling about driving, but I want opinions...

I really have to try VERY HARD sometimes not to smack some people at work.

I wonder sometimes if people truly are that STUPID.

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Re: Excuse my rambling about driving, but I want opinions...

[quote author=smokinAMD link=topic=119559.msg2516344#msg2516344 date=1217891250]
I really have to try VERY HARD sometimes not to smack some people at work.

I wonder sometimes if people truly are that STUPID.
[/quote]I treat all drivers like they are stupid until they prove to me otherwise. 90% of the time they remain stupid in my book :P My wife razzes me about my theory, but then she feels the same way, lol.
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Re: Excuse my rambling about driving, but I want opinions...

So what did a new driver do to you to piss you off, did they scuff your new shoes?

I mean no hard feelings for what I post on this website. Anything I type/write/post/say on this forum is only that of general debate and discussion. I am not biased toward anyone or anything. I am neutral in everything I do on this website. Only those facts that are presented to me sway my thought process and siding of each discussion topic that I post about.
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