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post #1 of 46 (permalink) Old 05-16-2008, 12:41 PM Thread Starter
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Yet another Ticket help thread

I know, there are quite a few of these, but mine is a bit different from anyone else.

I was getting on the NJ Turnpike (I-95 for all you non-jersey east coast people) (it's a major highway with truck lanes and car lanes) and I took the car lanes. While merging the people in front of me were so frigging slow and I didn't think it was a safe situation and I moved over to the middle lane (3 lanes) and gunned it to pass the people that I thought may shoot over and possibly cause a problem. I might of gotten to 80/85 but it wasnt for long until I passed those people. I didn't hit the brake to slow down, I just got off the throttle. A little ways down, I then moved over to the fast lane and was keeping up with the flow of traffic and in my rear view mirror I saw a state trooper which isn't too abnormal cause they FLY and basically force you to move over for them. So when there was a gap in the middle lane, I moved over. As I was moving over, I noticed the frigging amber light of death. When the gap in the middle lane got to him, he moved over behind me and threw on the lights. (wonderful!) Pull over, use blinkers and then hazards and leave him room on my right side so he didn't have to be on the side of traffic...Here's the dialog more or less.

Trooper: License and registration please
me: I'm sorry, what? (traffic making a lot of noise)
Trooper: Turn your radio off and license and registration please (I had my radio on 3 which I did mean to put to zero but with nerves and being pissed I was pulled over, I didn't realize)
Me: (I turned off my mp3 player) Sorry (started to get my things out) May I ask why I am pulled over?
Trooper: I pulled you over for speeding.
Me: Really?
Trooper: Yes, how fast you think you were going?
Me: 65...70 MAYBE
Trooper: I guess you didn't see me, I was in the truck lanes going 80 and you were pulling away from me
Me: Well I was speeding a bit when I 1st got on to the turnpike to pass some people but I slowed down after that.
Trooper: Where are you going?
Me: (I had microphones on my front seat) I am running these down to my boss in our main office in Cranbury.
Trooper: So you're coming from home?
Me: Yes and no, I work out of the Sheraton hotel in raritan center and I had to pick these up before I went to my main office. But before then, I was at home.
Trooper: Have you ever been pulled over before for a moving violation?
Me: Yea, only one other time then this on 287.
Trooper: For?
Me: The trooper got me on a pace but I went to court and the prosecutor plead me down to unsafe driving since he didn't think there was enough proof.
Trooper: So you don't have any points?
Me: Absolutely not.
Trooper: Okay, let me look up your information.

He's in his cruiser so some time. I see him writing so I know I am screwed. I am hoping he will let me go for a seat belt ticket (I was wearing my seat belt, but maybe to get me out of speeding) but I doubt that would be the case. He gets out of the car, and I see a long piece of paper in the hand which confirmed my worries.

Trooper: Heres your items (hands me my License and registration) (then hands me the ticket) You're old enough that you don;t need me to give you a lecture but you were pulling away from me so I jumped over to the car lanes. You can do what you did the 1st time you got pulled over and goto court and get it plead down. I also gave you a bit of a brake, but you really need to watch your surroundings, ie (yea, he actually said ie) Police. Have a good day.

Now I am sure there was other dialog, but that is what I can remember. The trooper wasn't a dick at all...I mean, in any other case, I would of befriended him, ha. But I looked at the ticket as he was talking to me. 74 in a 65 and by Pace. Also means that my fines will be doubled since I was in a 65mph zone.

Here is my options as I see it.
1)Call my insurance company and see how much if any my rate will go up, and add that to my fine and see if that out weighs the fines if I would plead down. And just take it (2 point ticket btw)
2) Goto court and try to plead down to unsafe driving again and the 1st time, the fines ran me ~$350 but I am not positive if the fines will be more since it's my 2nd unsafe offense. I will have to look that up.
3) Goto court and fight the ticket all the way.

If I choose #3, can anyone find anything in my explanation/dialog that I could use to fight the ticket? I know things differ from state to state, but most states have similar ways as for getting out of things. I was also thinking that he admitted to speeding and he wasn't in an emergency situation or had his lights on. I mean that lawyer in OR or WA wrote a ticket to a cop who illegally parked. Could I use that? Also, would the distance between us be too much legally to be used for a pace? Also, is there a certain distance that a pace has to be established?

I know its a long post, I thank anyone and everyones help to save me some money cause I am broke and going to be out of a job in a week.


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if he was going 70 and you passed him....


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where you going with that? haha


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well if he was going ~80 and you passed him. You are going over 65.
Maybe if you're nice, the judge will lesson the penalty.
Good luck man.


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I know that, but the time I did pass him I was passing others to avoid a dangerous situation.

but I was hit with 74 in a 65 so they can't give me more


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tell that to the judge and maybe he will give you a break. I'm rooting for ya


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you are only allowed to plead down to unsafe driving (0 points) twice. it carries a mandatory surcharge of $250 + the cost of the ticket + court costs. you are looking at between $400 - 500 to walk away with 0 points. (lol i listen to the judge give this speech every time i go to court for work)



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yo dude that sucks
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[quote author=Ally link=topic=111990.msg2319981#msg2319981 date=1210958572]
you are only allowed to plead down to unsafe driving (0 points) twice. it carries a mandatory surcharge of $250 + the cost of the ticket + court costs. you are looking at between $400 - 500 to walk away with 0 points. (lol i listen to the judge give this speech every time i go to court for work)


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To the OP, I think you're probably screwed. Sucks that it happened when money's tight, though. Good luck.
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WHY DID YOU STOP?!?! haha

RUN MO FO RUN!!!!!!!!

no no no never do that... That sucks man, gonna be hard to beat, the cop seemed very chatty though... which means he'll probably show up if you went to court...


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