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Scientists that are on the list that dont support global warming

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Some proof that the list is moderately fabricated.
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Re: Scientists that are on the list that dont support global warming

I have no doubt that names on it are wrong. It still stands though that some scientists think global warming is bunk. Last I checked though there were plenty of americans who didn't realize that there was anyone before Christ, the Dinosaurs coexisted with 'ancient man' (read ancient to mean shortly after Adam and Eve around 6,000 years ago), etc, etc.
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[quote author=azazel1024 link=topic=110497.msg2278934#msg2278934 date=1209656061]
I have no doubt that names on it are wrong. It still stands though that some scientists think global warming is bunk. Last I checked though there were plenty of americans who didn't realize that there was anyone before Christ, the Dinosaurs coexisted with 'ancient man' (read ancient to mean shortly after Adam and Eve around 6,000 years ago), etc, etc.
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Oh definatly. No community thinks the same way on all topics/controversies.
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Re: Scientists that are on the list that dont support global warming

Global warming is bunk

We also had Global cooling for a period of about 40 years from the 40s to the 80s.

People are flipping out over nothing. It is good that people are starting to become more eco-friendly, however there should not be any panic over it.

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[quote author=birdzofprey link=topic=110497.msg2279021#msg2279021 date=1209657631]
Global warming is bunk

We also had Global cooling for a period of about 40 years from the 40s to the 80s.

People are flipping out over nothing. It is good that people are starting to become more eco-friendly, however there should not be any panic over it.
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i agree that we shouldnt panic, it doesn't help. The cooling period is due to the fact all the gases we released in the air didnt have the adequate time to take effect yet. We have used CFCs in fridges and so forth for a long time, but didnt start to notice the damage on the ozone till the late 70s, early 80s i believe. The montreal protocol was in 87 which helped put a stop to CFC use.
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Re: Scientists that are on the list that dont support global warming

each person is entitled to their own opinions of course, but i personally believe that this "global warming" and "global cooling" are planetary cycles that occur over several years/decades. Most people will generally believe a lot of what the media portrays, and right now, it is telling everybody that the causes of this "global warming" is from what humans put into the air.

Another point is that even if we were causing this "global warming" by the time it was serious enough to actually harm us, life would probably cease to exist on this planet anyhow, either by human self destruction (nuke em all) or some form of extraterrestrial object like an asteroid (but not entirely ruling out little green men lol). Or some virus will probably come around that eats us all alive. In either case it would be interesting to see how it all turns out, but I seriously doubt that "global warming" is caused by humans, there is just simply not enough evidence to support that claim.

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There is way more then enough evidence to show that we are the cause.

It is relatively simple environmental science and chemistry to support global warming from greenhouse gases.

That aside, why wouldn't it be harmful quickly (by quickly I mean a few decades to a century)???

There is no one that can really refute what would happen if the glaciers and ice shelves actually melted. Sure some people disagree that we are the cause, but I don't think anyone really disagrees what would happen if they did melt.

A several foot rise in sea level is quite enough to completely swamp several nations.

For example the average altitude of Bangladesh is 11 meters, or about 34ft. So imagine what would happen if the sea levels rose even a few feet...you swamped a good part of the nation. A 30+ft sea level rise is forecast for a century or so out. So even if you disagree with global warming, you can't really disagree with what it would mean if you accepted that it was a reality.

Heck most of the worlds population live in costal zones that are well below 30ft above sea level. What does New York city do if sea levels rise 20ft??? Thats water in the streets of Manhattan. Venice is already having issues, let alone even a 1-2ft rise in sea levels. London is only a few feet above sea level at high tide. I can name dozens of major cities that would be flooded with a modest sea level rise.

Minimum that is expensive to build the levies and dikes required to protect the cities. Dozens of times more to move the cities entirely. What about the countries that are going to be almost completely under the ocean? You think the migration of minimum tens of millions if not hundreds of millions is going to be entirely peacful???
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I understand your point about media hype and such. But this is something ive researched as well. I did an essay on it for college about a year and a half ago, found out a bit more about the cause and specifics. Also, we are actually in a cooling trend right now, and will head into a warming in 10 years or so. I saw an article today that in 5-6 years the global warming will halt ultil 2015, as the trend changes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...climate130.xml
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also watch this if you have some time. http://video.google.com/videosearch?...a=N&tab=wv If you haven't seen it matt, you might wanna check it out yourself.
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u all make good points and im not disagreeing about what can happen, i just dont think it will be as quick as some people think it will. decades to a century. I think probably a few centuries is more likely, but nobody can really know the answer to that. Plus there has always been more water than land, people should start considering living in water???just a thought. Ill check out those videos when i get home from work.

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