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CAUTION: Avoid moving scams.

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Guys, please be careful when choosing your movers. The above article describes, down to the smallest detail, what nearly happened to Brandon (brandontrek) and I this past weekend. Our move went from costing $1400, to over $5000.00 once they had everything on the truck. Thankfully we did not allow them to leave with all of Brandon's belongings, but in order to get everything off of the truck, we lost the deposit of $450, and had to dish out an additional $800 in material and labor (which on the quote is listed as being free). Both charges are currently in the process of being disputed.

After everything was off of the truck, we had to rent a U-Haul, and make the 1300 mile drive from PA to South FL, both of us losing a day's worth of work.

The above is just a quick overview of everything that happened with this company.





Full story, but I changed the name of the company and its employees for right now until everything is resolved with the movers and the credit card company.
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A few weeks ago I was in need of a quote to move a relatively small amount of belongings from PA to FL, and was directed to www.123movers.com, a site similar to Lending Tree in that they send out your information and several movers to compete for your business. Sounds easy enough. I received several quotes from very seemingly genuine salespeople who called several times to follow-up on the quote. I finally decided to use All-Bholes Moving & Storage. Their salesperson, Tard, was very nice and helpful and talked me through how everything with the move works, explaining to me that they base their quotes on the total weight of everything to be moved. This was the list I provided to Tard: 1-twin bed, 1-large L-shaped computer desk, 1-dresser, 1-night stand, 1-350lb motorcycle, 1- 56" TV and TV stand, and I also told him that I wasn't sure how many boxes we would be using, but I guessed it at being several small boxes. He told me that he would just write down 5 large boxes onto the estimate as it would be cheaper and save me money. Him, being a professional salesperson in the moving industry, guessed all of the above listed items at being 2100lbs, or 300 cubic ft @ $4.75 per cubic foot, totalling out at $1,400.00.
After discussing everything with Brandon, we decided that hiring movers would be beneficial to us so we don't have to take any time off of work, rent a truck, and make a 1,200 mile drive ourselves for the second time in one month.
I arranged the move for March 9, 2008 for the A.M, and gave All-Bholes a $450.00 deposit via credit card. Tard said the date would work, and that they would be there between the hours of 10:00am and 11:00am. So Brandon and I bought plane tickets for a flight up to PA for the weekend so we could be there when the movers showed up. After we bought the non-refundable plane tickets, Tard called and said that they were no longer available to move us on Sunday, instead asking if they could do it on either Friday morning or the following Monday evening. Obviously, because of the plane tickets, we could not work with those dates, and I insisted that they show up on the day that they said they would. We received a call on Friday, two days before the move was supposed to take place, telling me that the movers would be there between the hours of 5:00am and 6:00am.
When Brandon and I got into PA, we took everything to be moved, save the twin bed, downstairs to the garage so the movers would minimize their labor. We put a few things (1 nightstand, 1 filing dresser, 1 chair, a few small boxes, and a small toolbox) that were not on the original list that we provided the mover with, downstairs. We knew that the quote would increase as a result of that, but didn't think that it would go up by very much, $500, maximum.
The movers showed up at 6:00am on Sunday, March 9, and were two very nice gentlemen, but they showed up in a Budget Rent-a-Truck. That threw up a red flag with me, but since I overlook the shipping of products all day, I understand that sometimes trucks fail mechanically and you have to move on with your business somehow, hence the rental truck. They were told by their work order that we had a moped, not a motorcycle, and said that they didn't have a proper liftgate for the motorcycle and legally weren't supposed to load it up without one, but would do it anyway and transfer it to a company truck later on with a proper liftgate. I am not aware where the miscommunication took place as both Brandon and myself told the movers beforehand that it was a 350-lb motorcycle. Brandon even told Tard that is was a 950cc Buell with a 72" wheelbase. The mover told us the the quote would move up to somewhere around 600 cubic feet to accomodate the motorcycle since it is not stackable and cannot save space. After all of our belongings were on the truck, the mover told us that we were at 875 cubic feet without the motorcycle. Total cost to move without the motorcycle would be $4,156.25, and an additional $1,400.00 if we wanted to take the motorcycle as well, creating a total moving cost of $5,556.25. It has now been brought to my attention that what they were doing is illegal as moving companies are not permitted to quote in cubic feet, and must quote and follow through with shipments according to weight, not the area required.
The lead mover, Colonel Mustard, had the nerve to tell us that he would do us a favor and cut the total cubic feet down to 800 (still without the motorcycle) if we slipped him and his helper, Anushka, each $100.00 under the table. What balls, eh?
I made several phone calls and was told that this was a moving scam and to unload the moving truck immediately. I called All-Bholes Moving and spoke with the manager, I believe her name was Country, but I cannot be certain. She was very condescending to me, blaming the misquote on me saying that I, not their salesperson, estimated the cubic footage wrong, although cu ft was never even mentioned in any of the conversations that was had with Tard, and Country told me that they have to charge me for material and labor, which is listed on the quote as being a free service, and that the charge would equal $800.00. The only material used was 4 or 5 boxes, 2 of those being large wardrobe boxes, and maybe 3 rolls of clear tape. We packed everything ourselves, with the exception of the movers loading up the truck and putting blankets on the furniture and bubble wrap on the television, and unpacking the truck took only 20 mins (I have several witnesses to back this statement), using only one of their workers, Anushka. I had to give my credit card information to Colonel Mustard in the total of $800.00 before they would even allow the unloading of the truck, and that is in addition to the $450.00 deposit that Bholes was already given. We have to pay $1250.00 to not even move any of our belongings?
We had to learn the hard way that this was, unfortunately, a moving scam of which we were nearly victims. We rented a U-Haul for $1200 one-way, and each had to miss an entire day of work and sleep to make the long 18-hour drive to Homestead, FL ourselves. I checked U-Haul's website, and the truck that we rented was 855 cubic feet, less than the cubic footage that the movers told us that everything, minus the motorcylcle, took up (875 cu ft). The movers told us that everything, including the motorcycle would take up 1,175 cubic feet. The 855 cubic feet U-Haul truck was, at most, a little less than half-full even with all of the extra stuff we found around the house to throw on there that wasn't in the mover's truck originally. Half of that truck would equal 428 cubic feet, and we didn't even have to stack anything in the truck, it was all a single layer, with pictures to prove. I can only hope that companies like All-Bholes Moving are exposed so less people are victims of scams like these. For more information regarding scammers like these Bholes, please visit www.movingscam.com.


BTW, the pics that I will be posting has a bicycle, a small table, a small box, and an engine block & head that was never even on the mover's truck. We just threw them in the U-Haul AFTER the movers already pitched their little hissy fit and left.




The movers can bite my ass.


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Re: CAUTION: Avoid moving scams.

BTW, I'm withholding the name of the company until all of this is resolved. But let it be known that their name, unfortunately, is not on the blacklist of moving companies.


Edit: Said blacklist: http://www.movingscam.com/tosConfirm...lackList.shtml


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[quote author=abalinka link=topic=105229.msg2141096#msg2141096 date=1205255306]
But let it be known that their name, unfortunately, is not on the blacklist of moving companies.
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Wow... that sucks... I hope everything works out for you! too bad you aren't going to Sebring
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Yeah, I'm bummed about it, too. But on the bright side of things, this situation would have been MUCH MUCH worse, what if we let them get all the way down to FL and then tell us that they cannot unload the truck until they have $5000.00 in either cash or money order in their hands.


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Happened to my mom when she tried to move her stuff from Indiana to Texas. I think the company was something like Ameicas Movers (found through U-hauls site). Anyway my mom ended up paying an extra $500 instead of the $2000 (extra) they wanted. It was quite a battle and I don't recommend there service to anyone, there customer service is terrible and they will try to nickel and dime you every chance they get.


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wow I had no idea that stuff happened to be honest (i really dont need a moving company to move my stuff as im only 21 and dont have a place to myself yet.) but thats horrible man...


i hope it works out and they get what they deserve.


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This is why all of my long haul moves have been handled by: a moving company loads my uhaul, I drive the uhaul to new home. Another company unloads the truck. They're never in actual possession of my property and it's actually much cheaper overall.
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this is why i just live in my mazda and don't own a house or apartment. or clothes.

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Last time I moved I used Two Men and a Truck and they were awesome. No disputes, moved us fast, were very nice and took care of our stuff.

Was this a reputable company?

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