Re: Veterans Day
[quote author=RB link=topic=94544.msg1853230#msg1853230 date=1195025480]
[quote author=murph182 link=topic=94544.msg1851015#msg1851015 date=1194972969]
[quote author=RB link=topic=94544.msg1850430#msg1850430 date=1194934690]
I'm sure other Vets will eventually start posting in here. Without our sacrifices, you would be speaking another language and this forum would not exist.
most vets that I know served with quiet pride and satisfaction, not smugly wearing it on their sleeve as in your post.
You missed my point, which was that it seems the general population these days has little, if any, recognition or appreciation of what our veterans have done for this country. Without them, the USA may not exist as we know it. I know no one who is "smugly wearing it on their sleeve", although you seem to think that I am. I simply think that Veterans Day is sorely overlooked and unappreciated by the general population, which saddens me. Not to worry, though. I'll put my life on the line in any war for your right to voice your opinion.
I think that the population has an incredible recognition of what our veterans have done. One only has to drive down the road to see an almost unlimited number of "Support our Troops" bumper stickers of various political slants. What higher form of patriotism is there than defacing your car with a sticker, or flying an American flag from your antenna until it is filthy and tattered, and then continuing to leave it up because you're too patriotic to take it down even just as long as it takes to go to Wal-Mart and buy a new one?
And clearly, were it not for all of our veterans we would be speaking another language and not using this forum. We might be speaking English instead of 'Merican if you hadn't forced those pesky Brits from our shores on a couple of occasions. And of course we might be speaking Spanish if it weren't for Teddy and his Rough Riders, or numerous Civil War heroes cutting their teeth in the Mexican War...oh wait... We might be saying "Y'all" and having grits three times a day if it wasn't for the Armies of the Potomac and the Tennessee whooping some ass down south and along the Mississippi. Clearly, the Kaiser was attempting to invade the US in the Great War, and we all know about the Japanese plans to invade the US. English and German might as well be the same anyway, but I don't think Hitler was planning to head this way. Although, if he did, I think it's silly to assume that the Krauts couldn't have invented the internet. And we drive Japanese cars anyway, so maybe not much would change there, what with the whole Axis thing. Personally, I think our car industry could use some German influence... Have you seen the new M Coupe? We would probably not be speaking Russian, either, since most of the world would be a glowing glass parking lot. We'd be lucky to speak at all, at that point.
I grow tired of the near constant use of cliches such as "you'd all be speaking X right now" or "this country wouldn't exist", etc. I grow even more tired of it when I hear it from younger vets, who joined willingly. (btw, did you know that in Vietnam volunteers made up a higher percentage of our forces than in WWII?) Draftees get a lot more sympathy from me. But most of the fun little phrases are simply not accurate.
So here's the deal: the people of this country owe YOU a debt of gratitude for volunteering to serve. Because you volunteered, the rest of us don't have to be drafted. And for that, I thank you. We owe you a debt of gratitude for offering to put your life on the line for our country's interests, be they political, economic, or whathaveyou. Because you're willing to go fight for whatever the cause du jour happens to be, we're able to exert our will in the world, and that usually benefits us all. And we certainly owe a significant amount of respect to combat vets and especially those that have died, as they really did make a tremendous sacrifice for this country.