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No Holds Barred Religion Thread

A place to discuss the errors, contradictions, absurdities and illegitimacy of the world's religions, past and present. Feel free to bash modern favorites like Christianity, Islam and Judaism as well as Buddism, Hinduism, Paganism, Greek and Roman mythology and anything else you can think of. Though they aren't religions, atheism and agnosticism are subject to debate as well.

Here are a few of my favorite links. I'll add to them later. Enjoy!

Reference

Skeptic's Annotated Bible (& Koran & Book of Mormon). Searchable by topic: absurdity, injustice, cruelty & violence, contradictions, science, sex, etc

The Official God FAQ

Perspective of our place in the universe, courtesy of the Hubble telescope

Miscellaneous

Kissing Hank's Ass

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

Hundreds of proofs of god's existence

Reference guide to biblically correct sex

Landover Baptist Church w/Pastor Deacon Fred

Your favorite bible stories in Lego form!

Errors, contradictions and absurdities in the bible

Send a letter to friends and family left behind after the rapture

Comedic Videos

Tale of Sodom and Gomorrah in cartoon form

Ricky Gervais (intelligent designer of The Office) on creationism/genesis

George Carlin on Religion (10 minutes) and on the 10 commandments (7 minutes)

George Bush on global warming

Jim Gaffigan on Jesus (1), on Catholicism (2) and on holidays (3)

Science/Educational/Serious Videos

Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot (brief and poignant)

The Root of all Evil? (part 1 - 48 minutes) & part 2 (48 minutes) with Richard Dawkins

Ken Miller on Intelligent Design (long, but worth it)

BBC's War on Science video covering the Dover, PA intelligent design trial (50 minutes)

Douglas Adams, author of the Hitchhiker's Guide series, interviewed by American Atheists (10 minutes)

Jesus Camp documentary (2 hours) & alternate link

Jonathan Miller's Brief History of Disbelief (1 hour), part 2 (1 hour), and part 3 (1 hour)

Richard Dawkins - The Enemies of Reason (pt. 1, 48 minutes)

Zeitgeist attempts to discredit the Jesus story as myth (first 35 minutes) and some criticism here

Atheist walking (19 minutes)

Christians displaying tolerance for other religions

Games

Bible Fight

Websites of well-known atheists

Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, author of The Selfish Gene, The God Delusion and many others

Sam Harris, author of The End of Faith and Letter to a Christian Nation

Freedom From Religion Foundation

Favorite Quotations

"Christ died for our sins. Dare we make his martyrdom meaningless by not committing them?"
-Jules Feiffer

"The religion of one age is the literary entertainment of the next."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

"...the only thing that separates us from the animals are mindless superstition and pointless ritual."
-Latka Gravas, in Taxi

"People say we need religion when what they really mean is we need police."
-H. L. Mencken

"So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence."
-Bertrand Russell

"A cult is a religion with no political power."
-Tom Wolfe

"The truth that we must finally confront is that Islam contains specific notions of martyrdom and jihad that fully explain the character of Muslim violence."
-Sam Harris

"120 million of us place the big bang 2,500 years after the Babylonians and Sumerians learned to brew beer."
-Sam Harris

"One of the things that is wrong with religion is that it teaches us to be satisfied with answers which are not really answers at all."
-Richard Dawkins

"By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out."
-Richard Dawkins
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Feel free to bash modern favorites like Christianity, Islam and Judaism as well as Buddism, Hinduism, Paganism, Greek and Roman mythology and anything else you can think of.
Frustrated much? lol


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Re: No Holds Barred Religion Thread (to dispute Christianity's legitimacy)

[quote author=3AndMe link=topic=83935.msg1575319#msg1575319 date=1185087718]
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Feel free to bash modern favorites like Christianity, Islam and Judaism as well as Buddism, Hinduism, Paganism, Greek and Roman mythology and anything else you can think of.
Frustrated much? lol

[/quote]Haha pretty much but I think he has it out for Christianity more though(for obvious reasons). Its just that hes intolerant of other peoples beliefs. If you are going to create a thread to debate legitimacy of a religion or religions then it should be free of prejudice rather than making it right off the bat with trolling.

It would be like someone creating a thread to discuss the legitimacy of a naturally born homosexual but saying its okay to bash homosexuals within the same thread.

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[quote author=aralls link=topic=83935.msg1575254#msg1575254 date=1185084950]
Feel free to bash modern favorites like Christianity, Islam and Judaism as well as Buddism, Hinduism, Paganism, Greek and Roman mythology and anything else you can think of.
[/quote]

Yeah ... while i suggested the "creation" of this thread (ha!) I do need to clarify some ground rules that apply everywhere. Go ahead and have heated debates about the concepts and ideas but do not make this personal. Yeah, I know... trashing someone's religion makes it personal to so many people, but I think if people have that much faith, they should be able to tolerate a little debate. No making this thread personal! And it goes both ways - I don't want to see "kspec is an idiot for being a Christian" just as much as I don't want to see "zobx is a douchebag for not believing Christ was the son of God." M'kay?



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[quote author=aralls link=topic=83935.msg1575254#msg1575254 date=1185084950]
Sam Harris, author of The End of Faith and Letter to a Christian Nation:
http://www.samharris.org/

Freedom From Religion Foundation:
www.ffrf.org
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I'm about half way through End of Faith, but I read Letter to a Christian Nation first. Very fantastic perspectives, IMO. Letter was the first place I've seen what my concept of morality should be in print! Morality should have only to do with Happiness and human suffering. Simple enough. If the entire world thought this way, everyone would get along. Definitely not the case with religious doctrine, as history has shown...

As for the FFRF, my grandfather actually joined this group several months ago! I read their newsletters from time to time.



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does any religion talk about dinosaurs? i know christanity leaves it out, and if you talk to some people they never existed

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Re: No Holds Barred Religion Thread (to dispute Christianity's legitimacy)

One guy in Canada has a Bible museum and shows dinosaurs getting on the Arc two-by-two. Some other folks believe the bones of dinos were placed by God to test people's faith and that the creatures never actually roamed the Earth.



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Re: No Holds Barred Religion Thread (to dispute Christianity's legitimacy)

from personal experiences I dunno whether to believe in a "god" of any type.
I mean I used to go to church and one minute they'd be saying "in the Bible, God says to love thy neighbor"
Twenty Minutes later " In the Bible, God hates gays, and they will be damned" totally contradictary. This was in both Catholic
and Baptist schools. Personally I believe if you strive to be a good person in your life and truly try to atone for any wrong doings
in your life then you will be rewarded in the end. Whether it be going to a heaven or mecca, reincarnation, or becoming a fruity elf dancing around a tree. I dislike most religions since the leaders of the churches like to instill thier own agenda into thier sermons.
And to me it seems like they are brainwashing you and taking your hard earned money. I hated it when our pastor was running around with gold necklaces, rolex watches, driving around a BMW/Mercedes, Has a 250+square foot house... At least with the catholic church I saw them putting thier money into thier programs, schools, and missions. Now, that doesn't mean I don't respect anyone because of thier beliefs in life, as long as they contribute to society and try to be a good person.

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Re: No Holds Barred Religion Thread (to dispute Christianity's legitimacy)

[quote author=karl_marxx link=topic=83935.msg1575442#msg1575442 date=1185109694]
does any religion talk about dinosaurs? i know christanity leaves it out, and if you talk to some people they never existed
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In the old test. the bible does discuss large reptiles and what not. While they are not called "dinosaurs" per say. This is possible as to what they were talking about.

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