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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 02-28-2007, 03:47 PM Thread Starter
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MD-DE REGISTRATION PROBLEM: HELP!!

I ran into a problem with the dealership I bought the car from. I was wondering what everybody's thought was on this...

I live in MD
I bought my Speed3 from a dealership in DE on Sat. 01/13/07

I traded in my 06 Mazda3 5-door for a Speed3; I decided it would be better to transfer the tags rather than get new ones. The salesman agreed and said they could do it. They didn't charge for new tags ($128 in MD) and I drove off my MS3 with a 60-day DE temp tag installed and my old MD tags in the trunk.

According to the dealer it had to be done this way because I couldn't install the MD tags until the MVA put the transfer through. Made sense to me. Before I left the dealer I called my insurance company and told them I traded my 06 and I took it out of my policy and added the speed3.
I signed off the MD title and handed it over.

Today, 6 weeks later after I asked them what's going on they told me they got new tags because the MVA didn't "accept" the transfer and they absorbed the cost of the new tags.

Complete BS or not? Has anyone ran into this problem?
Technically I think I'm in deep s*** because I've kept my 06 Mazda3 without insurance since the MVA wasn't notified that it was traded.
I'll go talk to the MVA ASAP but I was wondering what you all thought about this.


Thanks!


PS: Back in June 2006 when I renewed my license I asked the the MVA rep if I could bring all the paperowork in register the car myself and told her I'd be buying it out of state. She said it couldn't be done, the dealership had to take care of it.
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Re: MD-DE REGISTRATION PROBLEM: HELP!!

Dunno, I have never attempted an out of state tag transfer or vehicle purchase. However, it sounds likely to me that you would not be able to transfer the tags on an out of state vehicle purchase.

Off the MD MVA website the taxes paid on the vehicle are

* Vehicle(s) titled in a state with a tax rate equal to or higher than Maryland's 5% tax rate will cost $100.

* If the vehicle is registered in a state that imposes no tax, the tax will be assessed at 5% of the value of the vehicle.

* Vehicles from a state with a lower tax rate than Maryland's 5% will be taxed at the rate of the difference between the two states. Example: MD 5%, VA 3%, the difference is a 2% tax rate. Minimum tax - $100. When the value of the vehicle is less than $2,000, the 5% rate will apply.

also off the MD MVA website is this information in purchasing a vehicle out of state

If the dealer does not handle the titling and registration of your vehicle, perhaps because you purchased the vehicle from an out-of-state dealer, you will have to submit the application documents yourself.

To title and register your newly purchased vehicle, you will need to submit the following documents (along with payment for taxes and fees):

Application for Certificate of Title (form #VR-005) - If you also want to register your vehicle, be sure to include your insurance information. Your policy must conform to Maryland's minimum liability insurance requirements.
Certificate of Origin - This is an ownership document produced by the vehicle's manufacturer.
Bill of Sale
Odometer disclosure statement
Under certain circumstances, additional information and/or forms may be required:

Lien information - If you borrowed money to buy the vehicle, you may need to record your lien information on the application (form# VR-005). The MVA Security Interest Filing (form #VR-217) must be used if a second lien is placed against the title.
Power of attorney - If someone other than you, the new owner, is signing the titling forms, this document is required.
Maryland Excise Titling Tax

A vehicle purchased from a licensed dealer, is assessed excise tax based on the agreed upon price of the vehicle, by the buyer and the seller including any dealer processing charge, with no allowance for trade-in or other non-monetary consideration. Manufacturer rebates are taxable, however dealer rebates and discounts are not. All rebate or discount information must be clearly marked on the bill of sale.


The MVA website also states that you have 60 days to properly register your vehicle if coming into the state (which may apply in purchasing a vehicle out of state, I am not sure)...so you might want to hurry on trying to get this taken care of.

I this helps.
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Re: MD-DE REGISTRATION PROBLEM: HELP!!

[quote author=azazel1024 link=topic=70740.msg1239437#msg1239437 date=1172696971]
Dunno, I have never attempted an out of state tag transfer or vehicle purchase. However, it sounds likely to me that you would not be able to transfer the tags on an out of state vehicle purchase.

Off the MD MVA website the taxes paid on the vehicle are

* Vehicle(s) titled in a state with a tax rate equal to or higher than Maryland's 5% tax rate will cost $100.

* If the vehicle is registered in a state that imposes no tax, the tax will be assessed at 5% of the value of the vehicle.

* Vehicles from a state with a lower tax rate than Maryland's 5% will be taxed at the rate of the difference between the two states. Example: MD 5%, VA 3%, the difference is a 2% tax rate. Minimum tax - $100. When the value of the vehicle is less than $2,000, the 5% rate will apply.

also off the MD MVA website is this information in purchasing a vehicle out of state

If the dealer does not handle the titling and registration of your vehicle, perhaps because you purchased the vehicle from an out-of-state dealer, you will have to submit the application documents yourself.

To title and register your newly purchased vehicle, you will need to submit the following documents (along with payment for taxes and fees):

Application for Certificate of Title (form #VR-005) - If you also want to register your vehicle, be sure to include your insurance information. Your policy must conform to Maryland's minimum liability insurance requirements.
Certificate of Origin - This is an ownership document produced by the vehicle's manufacturer.
Bill of Sale
Odometer disclosure statement
Under certain circumstances, additional information and/or forms may be required:

Lien information - If you borrowed money to buy the vehicle, you may need to record your lien information on the application (form# VR-005). The MVA Security Interest Filing (form #VR-217) must be used if a second lien is placed against the title.
Power of attorney - If someone other than you, the new owner, is signing the titling forms, this document is required.
Maryland Excise Titling Tax

A vehicle purchased from a licensed dealer, is assessed excise tax based on the agreed upon price of the vehicle, by the buyer and the seller including any dealer processing charge, with no allowance for trade-in or other non-monetary consideration. Manufacturer rebates are taxable, however dealer rebates and discounts are not. All rebate or discount information must be clearly marked on the bill of sale.


The MVA website also states that you have 60 days to properly register your vehicle if coming into the state (which may apply in purchasing a vehicle out of state, I am not sure)...so you might want to hurry on trying to get this taken care of.

I this helps.
-Matt
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Thanks for the info. I did read most of the MVA's website some time ago especially the part about the tax. The 5% tax was included in my finacing agreement processed through the dealership itself.
As for the tags... they said they would do it and could do it. The MVA said I cannot do it myself. I better get it moving.

Where in Ellicott City are you????
I'm on rt-40, 2 blocks from rt-29.
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That is pretty close to where may parents live (Turf valley). I live right about at the intersection of rt100 and rt103...I think that is exit 5 on route 100 (or exit 6, though I think that is I-95).

That is interesting that the MVA told you you couldn't do it when their website says that in some cases you do have to do it on your own if the dealership can't/won't. Good luck getting this straightened out.

I am just curious though, any particular reason why you didn't get the car in state? Russel Mazda just down the road from you is decent (though by no means exceptional), did they not have any MS3s?
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[quote author=azazel1024 link=topic=70740.msg1239509#msg1239509 date=1172697968]
That is pretty close to where may parents live (Turf valley). I live right about at the intersection of rt100 and rt103...I think that is exit 5 on route 100 (or exit 6, though I think that is I-95).

That is interesting that the MVA told you you couldn't do it when their website says that in some cases you do have to do it on your own if the dealership can't/won't. Good luck getting this straightened out.

I am just curious though, any particular reason why you didn't get the car in state? Russel Mazda just down the road from you is decent (though by no means exceptional), did they not have any MS3s?
-Matt
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Russel WHO???

No way I'm going back there. They ripped me off big time; that's where I got my 5-door from jack on 01/06... let's say I was an inexperienced first-time car buyer and they saw the opportunity. F*** THEM.

I called the salesman that sold me my fist car and I put my name down on the list. They never called me or emailed me, NOTHING. I insisted and they didn't care... plus they were marking up their MS3 $2K. I SAID ENOUGH.

Somebody in this forum recommended me this dealership...... they're all the same after all. This is sad
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Russel....sucks.....

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Hmmm, I haven't had any issue with them, buying my car or service related. Okay, one service related issue. From some stupid reason when I took it in for an oil change there once on my lunch hour it took them 2 1/2hrs to change the damn oil. I was pissed. After about 1 1/2hrs the service consultant finally told me that half their mechanics were out and so were all the service consultants but him because of some flu bug that was getting passed around...so it was taking longer then it should and he was really sorry. I was pissed because he could have told me up front and I would have brought it back another day.

Other then that one issue they have been pretty good.

I did dislike the heritgage Mazda dealership in Ownings Mills. Salesman was overly pushy and didn't know anything about the cars. At Russel the salesman was about my age (23-24), knew pretty much everything there was to know about the 3 and we chatted miatas and autocross for about an hour (as well as poked through a couple of grassroots motorsports magazines he had)...didn't give me an amazing deal, but they were willing to drop a few hundred off the price of the 3i I ended up getting (so it was somewhat below MSRP).
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lol i was just searching around about Russel and everything is bad reviews.
here's my personal experiences:
http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.ph...702#msg1881702
I was a little angry but the more i see how they screw over other people the more i want to see if we can get together and create awareness on all the mazda forums to warn people about this dealer. Maybe we can actually create some damage to them.

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