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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 10-31-2006, 01:46 PM Thread Starter
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Okay, so I have an issue that I need to resolve, but I figure I would try to get some people's feedback on it before just going all lone gun on it.

I am heading on my honeymoon next tuesday and I am taking my Olympus OM-1 SLR with a 50mm f/1.8, 135mm f/3.5, and 28-80mm f/3.5 lenses with me along with a polorizing and skylight filters that fit only the 50mm lens (and a shutter release cable, just cause).

I am trying to figure out what film and what speeds to take with me. My issue is that the 28-80mm lens which is my prefered lens (because it is flexible) has vigetting at higher F-stops and any filters on it (hence not taking any filters for it), it is really only noticable in the 28-40mm zoom range. It isn't horrible, horrible, but it is present at anything over an F-stop of 5.6. To reduce this I want to use a slower film so I don't have to stop down the aperature as much in bright day light (which is what, supposing good weather, 70% or more of my photography will be on the trip). The downside is that the lens needs a higher speed film to handle indoor lighting, and especially dim indoor lighting (I am not taking a flash partly because a number of the indoor locations we are going using a flash would be VERY bad form). I can switch to my 50mm f/1.8, which is part of the reason why I am bringing it, but that is only ~2 stops better light gathering (okay, still significant). However, in my experience in dim indoor lighting (say an old church or cathedral with dim lighting) is going to need shutter times of 1/15-1/30s with 400spd and that 50mm lens wide open for some resonable exposures, if I have say 100spd film in there, there is NO way I can hand hold the camera and not blur the heck out of the shot even with the mirror locked up.

Now I don't want to take any 800spd film with me since I am flying and I don't really trust hand inspections of film, at least not in Europe (I have heard bad things about that), so the max speed I am looking at taking with me is 400spd. Normally I would use this exclusively, but since there is that vigetting issue with my one lens (no I do not have the time or money to quick replace it before leaving)...not so good in bright light if I need to use an F-stop of f/16 or so.

The downside to my camera is that it only has a max shutter speed of 1/1000s, and in bright day light that means an aperature of f/8 at that speed and iso400 film. There is noticably less vignetting at f/8 then at f/16, but there is still some at that setting.

Anyone have suggestions on this? Don't bother telling me having a digital SLR would solve the whole film selection issue, I am not dumb, I realize this. I am also not about to shell out $1000 for a decentish dSLR and a cheap zoom lens or two (maybe some day, but no day soon).

So anyone have suggestions on a film mix to take with me? It is realtively likely that I might be shooting 10-15 shots in bright light and then move into a dim interior or heavily shadowed area. Also anyone have any film brands to suggest???

I used Kodak exclusively when I went to England back in may using 200 and 400spd with relatively good results (I also only had my 50mm f/1.8 and 135mm f/3.5 at the time, no issues with those lenses). I have been using fuji film almost exclusively since and like it for the most part. I have heard a few people rave over fuji films Reala film, but I have no experience with that in particular.

What I am thinking is maybe getting (2) 4 packs of 24 shot rolls of fujifilm ISO400 film and (2) 24 shot rolls of fujifilm Reala ISO100 film for when I know that I am going to shot exclusively outside for that roll. That gives me 192 shots of ISO400 and 48 of ISO100 (I would consider 36 exposure rolls of the Reala, but there would be a much higher chance I would be indoors for some shots on a 36 exposure roll then a 24 exposure roll).

Does this sound smart? I know I can get at least some sort of film on the cruise ship if I run dry, but I also know I am going to pay out the butt for it. There are four excursions I am taking my camera on (leaving it on the boat for the bike ride through Barcelona, my fiance will have her Canon D530 for that trip...and for the others as well for that matter), and I figure 2 rolls of film for each plus the 2 'bonus' rolls.


So advice, comments, opinions on Fuji Reala film (tolerance to under/over exposure, color balance, quality, saturation, contrast)?

Thanks!
-Matt
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Re: Flim choice

I'll take that as a no, no one has advice.

Anyway, got film last night. Decision crystalized. I ended up getting 10 rolls (24exp) of ISO400 Fuji superia, 1 roll of ISO100 fuji Reala (12exp), and 1 roll of ISO100 fuji Reala (36exp).

After buying it I decided I would be better off with several roll of 12exp rather then the 36exp roll (they had no 24exp rolls), so I am probably going to run back and get the 2 other 12exp roll of reala that they had.
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The Fuji will work out well. I only really use film for B&W anymore and use a Kodak 400 file for that. In any case have fun. And buy yourself a digital SLR sometime youll love it
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I have decided that some day I will. But looking at the current gens of bodies and lenses I figure I will spend at least $1000 for a decent body and 1-2 lenses plus an adapter to use my current lenses on the body. I don't really have the spare change to pony up for that right now (trying to buy a house after this whole 'getting married' thing is over with). That and I am still having lots of fun with my film SLR. I suspect I will continue using my olympus OM-1 for some time, and I will probably even continue taking it on trips, but in that case I will probably use it more as a backup body in case the dSLR dies and maybe for taking a couple of rolls here and there where I know that the film will still exceed the digital (very wide light differences in the shot, etc).

The seductive reasons I have decided that I will one day go digital are

1) no need to carry film. 12-14 rolls of film for a trip do take up quite a bit of space
2) no need to worry about different ISOs of film. Hit a button or 5 and I just went from iso100 to iso1600
3) Take as many shots as I want and no worries about 'wasting film'. Those 12 rolls I got have about 300 pictures between them, which will almost certainly be enough, but I could easily take 4-6 shots of the same scene with different settings and just print the 1 of that scene that I like, unlike with film where if I did that I would be spending 4-5 times as much for printing all of those just to get the 1 picture I want (I tend to bracket my shots with either desired exposure if I am 99% sure it is right, desired +1/2 over if I am a little unsure, or desired +1/2 over and -1/2 under if I am really not sure. That burns up a lot of film).

Of course I think I will still love 4 things about my film camera even when I switch to digital some day.

1) all the controls are at my finger tips, ALL of them
2) the camera body weighs almost nothing, total weight is .5lbs with no lens
3) No batteries other then for the exposure meter...no worries about a battery dieing and not being able to take shots. This also extends into the 'shot in any weather and climate' catagory as well. This sucker can handle taking shots from about -100F up to about 140F...not something that can be easily accomplished with digital
4) The look. I am sorry to say, but modern dSLRs and even a lot of modern film SLRs just aren't that attactive looking. The classic look of my OM-1 is just so much sexier. Think '69 stingray corvette compared to at best a 350z (or I think in a lot of cases a 2006 civic in appearance). This also extends into the travel realm of 'my camera doesn't look really expensive, so no one is really going to want to try to steal it, unlike the guy next to me who's camera LOOKs like it costs $2000'.
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^^Good points on all of those I still have a film body and it is nice that it weighs about nothing, but I would never give up my digital film costs to much and is to troublesome to carry around.
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[quote author=azazel1024 link=topic=61142.msg1044198#msg1044198 date=1162384505]
I ended up getting 10 rolls (24exp) of ISO400 Fuji superia, 1 roll of ISO100 fuji Reala (12exp), and 1 roll of ISO100 fuji Reala (36exp).
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Those are two of my personal favorites, for what it's worth.


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Thanks for the support on the film. It never hurts to make me feel like I didn't make a dumb decision. I tried getting a couple more 12exp rolls at ritz, but they sold them out between tuesday and yesterday apparently. I will have to try to look at another ritz when I am down near where my rehearsal is tomorrow, maybe they have a couple of rolls of reala laying around.
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