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Ethanol Won't Solve Energy Problems

July 11, 2006 By H. Josef Hebert, Associated Press

WASHINGTON Ethanol is far from a cure-all for the nation's energy problems. It's not as environmentally friendly as some supporters claim and would supply only 12 percent of U.S. motoring fuel -- even if every acre of corn were used.

A number of researchers, the latest in a report Monday, are warning about exaggerated expectations that ethanol could dramatically change America's dependence on foreign oil by shifting motorists away from gasoline.

As far as alternative fuels are concerned, biodiesel from soybeans is the better choice compared with corn-produced ethanol, University of Minnesota researchers concluded in an analysis Monday.

But "neither can replace much petroleum without impacting food supplies," the researchers concluded in the paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The paper said development of nonfood materials such as switchgrass, prairie grasses and woody plants to produce cellulosic ethanol would be a major improvement with greater energy output and lower environmental impacts.

But creation of cellulosic ethanol remains in the laboratory research stage. And even nonfood sources of ethanol would fall far short of replacing gasoline, most researchers agree.

Biofuels such as ethanol are "not a practical long-term solution," and their widespread use -- even from nonfood crop sources -- could have a "devastating" impact on agriculture, two researchers at the Magleve Research Center of the Polytechnic University of New York, argued recently.

"Ethanol from 300 million acres of switchgrass still could not supply our present gasoline and diesel consumption, which is projected to double by 2025," the researchers, James Jordan and James Powell, wrote in an op-ed article in the Washington Post. "The agricultural effects of such a large-scale program would be devastating."

In addition to a reduction in soil fertility by not plowing wastes back into the ground, there is concern that using corn and soybeans for ethanol would create competition for food crops.

But Geoff Cooper, a spokesman for the National Corn Growers Association, calls suggestions that the growth of ethanol will jeopardize food supplies as "fear mongering."

"There's absolutely no shortage of corn," said Cooper. He said demand for corn for livestock feed has been flat and that increased production and expected higher yields per acre will provide plenty of corn to meet all needs.

In a frenzy to respond to public outcries about high gasoline and crude oil prices, members of Congress as well as the Bush administration have embraced ethanol as the alternative to gasoline to help move the country closer to energy independence.

Ethanol, virtually all of it made from corn in this country, also has been touted as the "green" alternative motor fuel with a push to make it more widely available not only as a 10 percent additive but with an 85 percent blend with gasoline.

"We definitely believe that biofuels (such as ethanol) have a significant potential," said Jason Hill, lead author of the University of Minnesota study. But he added that ethanol should not be viewed as "a savior" to our energy problems and its rapid expansion as a motor fuel has its drawbacks, especially if it is dependent on food crops such as corn and soybeans as feedstock.

If every acre of corn were used for ethanol, it would replace only 12.3 percent of the gasoline used in this country, Hill's study said, adding that the energy gains of corn-produced ethanol are only modest and the environmental impacts significant.

As a motor fuel, ethanol from corn produces a modest 25 percent more energy than is consumed -- including from fossil fuels -- in growing the corn, converting it into ethanol and shipping it for use in gasoline.

While often touted as a "green" environmentally friendly fuel, corn-based ethanol's life cycle environmental impacts are mixed as best, the researchers said.

Compared with gasoline, it produces 12 percent less "greenhouse" gasses linked to global warming, according to the study. But the researchers also said it has environmental drawbacks, including "markedly greater" releases of nitrogen, phosphorous and pesticides into waterways as runoff from corn fields. Ethanol, especially at higher concentrations in gasoline, also produce more smog-causing pollutants than gasoline per unit of energy burned, the researchers said.

"There's a lot of green in the money that's going into ethanol, but perhaps not so much green is coming out as far as the environment," said Hill, the lead author, in a telephone interview.

The ethanol industry says there's little new in the University of Minnesota study.

"Everyone in the industry recognizes that there is a limit on how much ethanol you can produce from corn," said Matt Hartwig, a spokesman for the Renewable Fuels Association, which represents ethanol producers.

"Nobody is saying that ethanol is the silver bullet that is going to solve all our energy problems. It's going to take a whole host of technologies. ... But ethanol and other biofuels play a very critical role."

He said the University of Minnesota study is only the latest to conclude that ethanol produces more energy than it consumes. "More importantly, there is a significant reduction in petroleum use with ethanol," he added.

Last year about 14 percent of the corn crop went to ethanol, compared with 11 percent four years ago. This year the amount of corn for ethanol could be nearly one in every five bushels grown, or 19 percent, according to Agriculture Department estimates.

The Corn Growers Association says that by 2015 a third of all the corn grown -- or 5.5 billion bushels -- likely will be for ethanol. The Energy Department says it has a goal of 30 percent of the fuel used by motorists to be ethanol -- both corn-based and cellulosic -- by 2030.

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An imperfect step away from petroleum is still a step away from petroleum, in my book. We're not going to completely revolutionize our energy infrastructure anytime soon, but the first chapter in that book is getting people to realize that energy can exist without fossil fuels.

If people would put as much effort into exploring and advancing the possibilities of alternative fuel/energy supplies, as they did in trying to prove that they won't work, then we'd be twice as far along as we are now.

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ethanol isn't the solution, it's part of the solution. Until we're using ethanol on a much larger scale, we aren't going to be able to solve the problems surrounding it...once you're producing and using it on such a scale, you're going to develop ways to increase efficiency in production, transport, and use. Ethanol may reduce petroleum usage by only a % or two, but as we use it and develop ways to produce and use it more efficiently, that savings goes up. Create other petroleum alternatives that save a little bit here and a little bit there, and it adds up. Ethanol is probably the easiest and most popular thing right now...when people start making some money from it, others will look to make it better or find other ways to make a buck by replacing gasoline with somethig else.

Government investment and research will only go so far...private enterprise will take things the rest of the way, but there has to be a profit there for them. Moving forward with Ethanol only helps to strenghten that market and bring in the capital needed to fuel further research and investment. (pun intended)
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I completely agree with you guys, putting 10% mixes of ethanol is most gas offered is not exactly effective but seems to be a way to alert the public about it although mine run very badly on it and it doesn't contribute to better mpg but gets its name out whether we like it ro not.

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