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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-27-2006, 02:34 PM Thread Starter
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Anybody going this weekend? I'll be there friday-monday, 6th year in a row. Be fun to have an M3F cheering section for Scott Speed during qual.
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That would be awesome to see, I forgot about Scott Speed on the Toro Rosso team. This is his first year driving correct? How is he doing so far? I would really like to go considering it's really not that far away from me.

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[quote author=Yugo link=topic=50002.msg789531#msg789531 date=1151435656]
That would be awesome to see, I forgot about Scott Speed on the Toro Rosso team. This is his first year driving correct? How is he doing so far? I would really like to go considering it's really not that far away from me.
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Yeah, I'm really looking forward to finally being able to cheer for an American. Got my flag and airhorn ready to go.

He's doing well, considering that he's in a shit car. STR is stuck with the limited cosworth v10 from last year. Rumour is that they'll take on Red Bull's deal for Ferrari V8's next year while Red Bull gets power somewhere else. Still, I'd say that Scott has done ok. He sort-of had a point in Australia, but they took it away from him because he passed DC under yellow. He finished 10th last weekend in Montreal. He's shown good passing ability when his car isn't outclassed, and he's had opportunities to get into the later qual sessions but has had some bad luck.

I'd say that if he can keep his seat for next season, he'll be able to take a lot of what he's learned this year and be pretty decent. His teammate, Liuzzi, has a lot more experience in F1 cars than speed does and he's not doing that much better than him.

I highly reccomend you go. It's one of the cheapest ticket on the F1 calendar and, I mean, it's F1. You won't find faster, more advanced race cars pretty much anywhere and there should be plenty of tickets. Saturday is probably the best deal in professional motorsports...$25 and you get to see F1 practice and qual, Porsche supercup, formula bmw and the indy pro series. PLus you can go wherever you want, so you can watch a bit from the straight and by the pits, check out turn 1 and the usual carnage that occurs there, the infield and some insane physics-defying action....raceday general admission tix are $60 I think. I've got grandstand seats at turn 1, they were only $105, and there's plenty of tix in between those prices.

Well worth it, and if you can get there this year you probably should just go...this is the last year on the contract between F1 and Indy, and Bernie is being an ass so it might be the last year for a while.
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That's really good for a first year driver and considering that this is a new team. I am trying to think now, is this the first American in F1?

I actually went to one race in Hungary in 2002. That was back when Schumacher was dominating the scene, although Barichello won that race in Hungary, Schumacher won the season.

I completely forgot that they are racing in Indy this week. I have been neglecting F1 due to the world cup being played right now. If I didn't have stuff to do this weekend I would probably go but I already made plans.

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I really want to go, but need to find someone to go with. I am really the only person I know that's into it enough to go. Another year, whether it be at Indy or another country.

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I can't believe they're still doing it in indy after the HUGE debacle last year. Did they ever get the tires straightened out?


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[quote author=ViperKillerWannabe link=topic=50002.msg790676#msg790676 date=1151469941]
I can't believe they're still doing it in indy after the HUGE debacle last year. Did they ever get the tires straightened out?
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[quote author=Yugo link=topic=50002.msg789851#msg789851 date=1151442878]
I am trying to think now, is this the first American in F1?
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not by a longshot. Phill Hill was the first american to win the championship, in 1961. Mario Andretti won it in 1978. Michael Andretti had a disastrous year at McLaren in 93, and until Speed he was the last. There have been over 150 American F1 drivers, which is more than any other country. Unfortunately, only a few have been any good.

[quote author=Yugo link=topic=50002.msg789851#msg789851 date=1151442878]
I actually went to one race in Hungary in 2002. That was back when Schumacher was dominating the scene, although Barichello won that race in Hungary, Schumacher won the season.
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I like the Hungaroring. A lot of people don't, but I see it as the chance for the teams with a good solid chasis but weaker engines to score points. I can see Speed doing well there this year because while the V10 may be limited in power output, it still has shitloads of torque.

[quote author=ViperKillerWannabe link=topic=50002.msg790676#msg790676 date=1151469941]
I can't believe they're still doing it in indy after the HUGE debacle last year. Did they ever get the tires straightened out?
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the tires were only a problem at Indy, and more than a few people have suggested that the problem had more to do with Toyota running too little air pressure than the tire itself. I'm sure some blame had to go onto the "no tire change" rule, as Michelin was rumoured to have been compromising tire integrity for speed.

I think that this year they'll have things straightened out. With tire changes allowed again, they don't have to worry so much about the tire wear and Michelin has spent $millions on development.I think it was a fluke, and I think it wasn't even that big of a problem last year but that it got escalated out of proportion.

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[quote author=ViperKillerWannabe link=topic=50002.msg790676#msg790676 date=1151469941]
I can't believe they're still doing it in indy after the HUGE debacle last year. Did they ever get the tires straightened out?
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and what would that be?
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last year during practice both Toyotas experience tire failures, with one driver having a blowout on the fastest part of the straight and suffering a minor injury. At first it was blamed on Toyota not running enough air pressure in the tire. Micheline checked into it and said that the tires were unsafe if driven for more than X laps, above a certain speed, or below a certain air pressure. The teams using Michelin tires wanted to do something to restrict the speeds on that part of the track, and the Bridgestone teams wanted nothing to do with it. They weren't able to come to a compromise. All 20 cars lined up on the grid, but at the end of the warmup lap all the michelin cars pulled into the pits. Only 6 cars started the race.

That's the short version. The long version includes many more reasons why the tires were unsafe, why they WERE safe, reasons why they should have made some concessions to let the michelin teams run, whey they shouldn't have made those concessions, who is to blame for the whole thing (hint: everyone has a different opinion on this one) and on and on and on.

Basically, they COULD have raced, but chose not to because it would have kept them from being even close to competitive. The Bridgestone teams and the FIA COULD have agreed to a compromise, but chose not to because there's no reason to put your drivers and equipment at risk for nothing.
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