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I need help selecting a HD/ED/Plasma TV

Ok man i am extremely confused on all this shit, im hoping someone can clear some stuff up

I need to know whats good, whats not, etc.

From what i think i know, HDTV is the best, and the higher the contrast ratio the better right?

And out of these tvs which is the best?

42'' Philips HD Integrated
1024 x 728p

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50'' Samsung HD Plasma
10,000:1 contrast ratio
60,000 panel life (wtf does that mean?)

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42'' Samsung ED plasma
INtegrated Tuner
852 x 480 screen resolution

these were the nicest ones they had at sams club picture wise. They were all about the same, with either the philips or the 42'' samsung being the best. We are getting the TV at sams because we have a sweet ass coupon.


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Re: I need help selecting a HD/ED/Plasma TV

unless you reallly need to get a TV this month, it's better to wait and buy a TV right before the Super Bowl.

Places like Sam's or Costco won't have TV specials but other stores will have some really good deals on TV's.

My friend sells high end audio and televisions and he always told me to wait until around Super Bowl, you can get credit deals like 1-3 years, no insterest or some really cheap prices.

Our TV went out and we just didn't know what type of TV to get. I did a little bit of research and think I'll bypass buying a plasma TV and wait until the DLP and LCD TV's come down in price. I think TV's are at the awkward stage where there's plasmas but I think they will be kind of a bridge between tube TV's and DLP's and LCD's. I know one guy that bought a 1st generation plasma and it's already going out, he hasn't had it that many years....

In the mean time, I chose to get an inexpensive Sony big screen rear projection TV at Circuit City of all places....
The salesman was really knowledgable and said to pass on getting the HD tuner in a TV. Siince we have Comcast, we can get an HD cable box with tuner for around $5 extra per month.

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here's some info on TV's:
There are three types of LCD televisions -
1. Flat panel LCD which is just like flat panel computer screens - and usually only go up to about 32" in size. I hear they are coming out with larger ones though.

2. Rear projection LCD. A very bright light bulb projects the image coming from 3 LCD panels (One each for Red, Green & Blue). These start at about 40" and go up to 70".

3. LCOS which is Liquid Crystal on Silicon is very similar to LCD (#2 above). Sony calls there version SXRD technology. Others have different funny names.

DLP stands for Digital Light Processing and is similar to LCD (#2 above) only in that it is a digital technology and is projected similarly with a light bulb. With (most) DLPs, there is only one chip (compared to the 3 LCD panels), and color is separated out with the use of a very high spinning color wheel. Pretty amazing technology.

Both LCD and DLP are getting pretty mature

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Re: I need help selecting a HD/ED/Plasma TV

Neither that Phillips or the 2nd Samsung support the latest generations of HD (I don't know about that middle TV)... you want a TV with a resolution of at least 1376x766 (or something like that, I forget exactly).

There's up to 60" LCD's, RoadWarrior, they're just about $10,000 though.

Anyway you can't beat true LCD for quality, but they're expensive - MSRP on my 32" Panasonic LCD is $1899, for example (my IBM discount brought that down to $1300, fortunately... see the stores for actual pricing). Any bigger than 32" gets expensive FAST (a 37" Sharp Aquos LCD is about double that price).
Any type of rear projection television (LCD Rear Projection, DLP, LCoS) has problems with fading to the sides... but are cost effective methods if you need a BIG tv (they all start at about 42-45", and go up quite large).
Plasma is the "cool" technology only because it was flat and cost effective... it still is cost effective, if you need to save space and a true LCD is out of your budget. Reasonably good picture. The panel life rating you see in the Plasma is how long the tube is expected to last. Plasma's have also been known to have burn in issues, though the companies say they've fixed that with the latest generations of plasma televisions.

Be careful about Sony HDTV's outside of their CRT HDTV's... at least last I looked, they were about bottom of the barrel (hence why you now see sony ads EVERYWHERE)... I don't know how their latest crop rates though.

If you're not concerned with space, and you don't need a TV over about 34", I'd actually highly recommend a CRT HDTV from Panasonic or Sony. They're big & heavy, but you can't beat the picture quality of a CRT, and they're CHEAP (relatively speaking... ~$900 for a 34&quot.
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Re: I need help selecting a HD/ED/Plasma TV

I know one guy that bought a big screen LCD and paid over $10K for it......
he's jerk that has tons of money and it's nice to know the TV he bought will be a lot cheaper in just 6 months....HA

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Re: I need help selecting a HD/ED/Plasma TV

[quote author=RoadWarrior link=topic=34091.msg484761#msg484761 date=1132551532]

1. Flat panel LCD which is just like flat panel computer screens - and usually only go up to about 32" in size. I hear they are coming out with larger ones though.

2. Rear projection LCD. A very bright light bulb projects the image coming from 3 LCD panels (One each for Red, Green & Blue). These start at about 40" and go up to 70".

3. LCOS which is Liquid Crystal on Silicon is very similar to LCD (#2 above). Sony calls there version SXRD technology. Others have different funny names.

DLP stands for Digital Light Processing and is similar to LCD (#2 above) only in that it is a digital technology and is projected similarly with a light bulb. With (most) DLPs, there is only one chip (compared to the 3 LCD panels), and color is separated out with the use of a very high spinning color wheel. Pretty amazing technology.

Both LCD and DLP are getting pretty mature
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personally as someone that use to sell this sh*t for four years i would go with the rear projo LCD . i haven't personally seen the LCOS so i can't make a call on that but LCDs are more stable than plasma TVs ( and they last longer). I also heard they're in the process of making a 1080p HDTV (thats if its not already out).so if you aren't hurting for a set wait till they flood the market with those then you can pick up a 1080i HD for alot cheaper. MZ6 makes a great arguement for CRTs they will give you a sharper picture but if its size you're lookin to save the LCDS are a lock hell you can almost call it a desktop projo. thast just my 2 cents


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Don't get plasma...they are expensive to maintain

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Re: I need help selecting a HD/ED/Plasma TV

if you are interested, Best Buy is going to be selling a 42" Plasma (no-name brand, but 3000:1 Contrast, 1000cd/m brightness) for 999.99 on black friday (friday after Thanksgiving) in one of their early bird specials. Here's the link to the site that says the BF price:

http://blackfriday.gottadeal.com/Sal...ory/all/Page/2

and here's the TV on their website (it will be 999 this coming friday. . . early bird special)

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1110265592639

its not the best of the best, but it certainly the best deal I've ever seen on a plasma TV. . . although Ijust noticed its EDTV, not HD, so be warned. . .

I personally have a 51" Rear projection Sony that I got two years ago (HD) and am VERY happy with it, DLP rear projections are EVEN better, and about the price of what I paid for this one (we paid $1499 for it two years ago black friday, got a free 7" LCD DVD player and $250 in Best Buy gift cards too!). Keep your eye out for deals around this time of year, its crazy what people are selling some things for (Best Buy also has a 20" LCD for $288! its a 4:3 AR, but HDTV still, and a crazy price, its on that same site). My fiancee showed me this site, I haven't gotten anything done at work yet and have been here two hours, I'm just planning things out for friday, good thing I got paid last week!

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Re: I need help selecting a HD/ED/Plasma TV

Get a Plasma. *I have a 42" HD plasma and it's awesome. *Picture quality rivals just about anything out there period. *I did my research well before I got it and it paid off. *Not sure were the "expensive to maintain" comment came from but mine got hung on the wall and I haven't had to do a thing to it. *Most of the cons you hear about for plasma's are from the 1st ones that came out(mid 1990's). *Burn-in in most Plasma's now is hard to do but in all honesty you can have burn in on an CRT. And the life span is just about as long on Plasma's as most regular tv's for one of the ones you listed it said 20 years (60,000hrs at 8hrs a day 365 days equals the 20 years). *Not to many people are still using a tv from 1990-1995 so I think 20 is more than you need (and with how technology moves who knows what will be here in just 10 years). *You'll be pleased if you get a plasma trust me. *But like all things go out and look at them to make sure. *And stay away from EDTV. That Phillips will do you just fine. 720p is the standard now that is utilized next comes 1080p (not 1080i). *And make sure you use an HDMI/DVI input.



I just saw the post above me. Once again I'd stear clear of EDTV's.


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I just picked up a 50" SONY triple LCD TV last night for my inlaws. It was an awesome TV for $2249.99 at BestBuy. Looks great on standard TV and even better on HD. The nice thing is it has a built in HD tuner that picks up some of the mediacom HD channels even though they have no HD service just a cable modem I believe its max resolution was 1578xsomething something..dont remember off the top of my head, but for the money it was a great tv.

[quote author=FANaticalKira link=topic=34091.msg484891#msg484891 date=1132577363]
Don't get plasma...they are expensive to maintain
[/quote] Actually plasma TVs now dont cost anymore to maintain than an LCD. The halflife has been reduced to over 40000 viewing hours which is far better than they were a few years ago, that being said Id still recommend an LCD or LCD projection
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I've been though this debate for months and the honest truth is unless you can afford a 40"+ LCD there isn't much difference (and even there it's slight). I'd suggest Plasma, why. Well because it's what I have and I've had nothing but good experiences. Like I said I did my research before buying it and it fit my needs. HDTV, Small and slinder, high quality. I can pm you the pros and cons of LCOS, LCD, DLP, Plasma, CRT if you want (all info from BestBuy so as not to be bias). So fell confident in any of the 1st 2 you were looking at (though I'd like to see some specs on the second on).


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