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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-09-2005, 02:02 AM Thread Starter
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Anybody with PC Building Skillz... suggestions

Finally decided to take some money from the turbo/fn01r-c fund to upgrade my aging computer:

Athlon XP3200+
Asus A7N8X deluxe (go soundstorm!)
512 ocz
160 maxtor
radeon 9800 pro (lots of artifacts and tearing)

I just got these from Fry's today:
Athlon 64 3500+* + ECS KV2 Lite (bundle- compared to newegg's cpu price of 219, i got a mb for only $20)
100GB SATA maxtor
1G mushkin

not a bad deal, since I can use my current video card on the new motherboard while I shop for a new one.* Even benchmarked with 3dmark 03 (got 1000 more) and 3dmark 05 (got 50 more).* I really haven't been into computers after i built my last one (2 years ago?) but have been reading the monthly maximum pc, but I feel so old and outdated!

Anyone have any suggestions on what motherboard (<$200) with PCI-express slot and a video card ($200-250)?

I kinda like this since it'd fit a small microATX case I have sitting around:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138264

or the Asus SLI deluxe that every reviewer seems to like....

I'm looking for anything >= a 6600GT to beat my 9800Pro that's just hanging on to dear life.* An overclocked 6600GT?* I think I might need VIVO cause my MSI [email protected] capture card feels really sluggish.

Any suggestions?* Thanks.

I think i need to upgrade my Antec Sonata case too... way too heavy and takes a while to fit any mobo in it.



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Re: Anybody with PC Building Skillz... suggestions

how much do you want to spend/how much have you spent?

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I really haven't been into computers after i built my last one (2 years ago?) but have been reading the monthly maximum pc, but I feel so old and outdated! Sad
well, I am kind of in the same boat

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you can save a whole bunch of money if u get a vidcard with the pciexpress bus instead of the agp bus.... it's faster but less expensive

edit - "vidcard" not "car"

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Re: Anybody with PC Building Skillz... suggestions

dumb link work....

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813131517

is a helluve good mobo for 939s, what socket is that 64 chip you got 754 or 939? its a pci express board though (also sli but you dont HAVE to run sli)

also u were running 512 ram on your old one... you ppor poor bastard


also http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814127179 theres a nice card to go with it
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I got a 939 venice core (checked the code at amd.com).* Actually, I didn't have any problems running most games with 512mb, as long as my AGP aperture was 512mb, I was able to play some games at 1280x1024 with FSAA- some levels in Far Cry, Guild Wars, and NFSU.* It wasn't until I bought NFSU2 and Doom 3 that my video card started showing artifacts and tearing.* At least my pc never freezes, so I get to accomplish something.

I was at Fry's again today to look at their video cards.* I bought the BFG 6600 GT OC for $229.99 to try out when I get the new PCI-E mobo and 2 of the $4.99 Airlink cheapo wireless antennas... who knew they'd work so well with my netgear setup?!

I will order that mATX board from the egg tonight, then SLI deluxe when start thinking of SLI.* Thanks for the link tekno.* I might get that card instead.* How come it's so cheap?* Some 6xTDs at fry's were cheap too for some reason, and the damn box never really tells you anything.* My only problem with getting a video card online is the trouble with returning and rma'ing if I don't like how it performs, so i have to try out some from other stores till I find the right one that gives me better performance.* The 7800s look very good, but if I get one, I'm left without a header.

Just saw Fable and Dungeon Siege 2 on the shelves.... I'll be getting one or the other once I finally beat Guild Wars with my first character (lots of fun, but I've been too busy.... i miss my pet bear ).

$239 for cpu/mobo bundle
$80 for memory
$60 hd
$229 vid card
$75 mATX mobo
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$683 + tax

I should've used my credit card.* There goes my wheel money....

Damn, I was gonna post a "dyno graph" of my "gains" in 3dmark but I realized i have to reinstall office again.* I have to wait till i activate xp with the new mobo.* BTW, is there a new system for the windows activation?* I seem to always have to call them at 1am, and I always talk to someone from india.



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not sure why its cheap comparged to your 6600gt but the 6800 i linked will be just as good if not better plus its SLI compatible... along with the motherboard

and i would suggest getting an SLI motherboard if u think u might ever want to go SLI itll save you from buying a new mobo, wont cost u anything more, and until u get a 2nd vid card u can run it like u normally would

and 512 aperature O_O wow
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wow only a 1000+ for 3dmark '03? i have a 9800pro and i get around 6000 w/ an amd 64 3200+ and 1gig of ram. what resolution did u use for the benchmark? you should of went for the 6800gt if you could afford it, it looks like a better vaule. SLI is a little over rated. unless u really want the best and get a pair of $500+ vid cards. you could get 2 6600gt and have the same power as the 6800 ultra but you would have to buy the same 6000gt and the prices aren't that much of a difference anymore.

If you're a gamer try the DFI LANparty boards, you can't go wrong.
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Re: Anybody with PC Building Skillz... suggestions

[quote author=ryuujin link=topic=31185.msg437494#msg437494 date=1129017880]
wow only a 1000+ for 3dmark '03? i have a 9800pro and i get around 6000 w/ an amd 64 3200+ and 1gig of ram. what resolution did u use for the benchmark? you should of went for the 6800gt if you could afford it, it looks like a better vaule. SLI is a little over rated. unless u really want the best and get a pair of $500+ vid cards. you could get 2 6600gt and have the same power as the 6800 ultra but you would have to buy the same 6000gt and the prices aren't that much of a difference anymore.

If you're a gamer try the DFI LANparty boards, you can't go wrong.
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I got ~6100 ("got 1000 more&quot when i put everything together.* everything is currently on default settings.* I under-volted my vid card and my artifacts went from a sandstorm to 1-3 dots; and the tearing's just about gone.* it looks like the card was over-volted on the old mobo (not sure how) so the capacitors are probably shot.

I decided to get this:* Gigabyte GV-NX66T128VP GeForce 6600 GT Turbo Force Edition PCI Express 128MB DDR3 Video Card w/HDTV-Out, DVI & VIVO Retail
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=322263

looks like there's enough clearance to fit the new mobo, no fan, and has vivo so i get to toss my capture card.* I thought of getting the $70 6600 vanilla w00t card to save $100, but it'd probably be slower than the 9800.* I'll be receiving the new mobo today, so i can work on it this thursday.* I haven't had time to work on the pc yet.* I have a race pipe install, pro-kit install, oil change, and a dyno to worry about this week

.... this new setup does not feel any faster than my old one.* It wasn't like jumping from a Celeron 300A @504Mhz to an Athlon 1GHz.* I forgot how far I got to overclock that, but it had a delta 60mm fan, that was horribly loud* .... ah, good times.* Hm... let's see, I went from
1. 286
2. 286sx laptop 8 or 12MHz
3. 386sx 25MHz
4. 486DX/2 60MHz 487 co-processor
5. [email protected]
6. Celeron 233
7. Celeron [email protected]
8. Athlon [email protected]?
9. Athlon1.6+GHz-1.9
10. Athlon [email protected]?
11. [email protected]
12. Athlon64 3500+

...damn with this incremental speed bumps!* I guess building a computer for the first time coming from a REALLY old one makes more of a difference than upgrading something every few months just to keep up with the software demands.* You'd only notice a gain, when you do buy something that's over $500.... but a few months later, that something becomes "bargain" and you'd have to start all over again.* Good thing car mods don't depreciate in value as fast.



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