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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-10-2005, 02:19 PM Thread Starter
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Why would you remain in a hazardous area instead of evacuating?

Ever since Katrina hit I have been thinking about this. Why would one stay instead of going somewhere safe?
I came up with a few reasons that I think would suffice
1. Inability to move out of the region. This could be for a variety of things. The most common being that you have no means of transportation. One could be bed ridden, injured or be taking care of someone who fell into that category. You are stubborn and decide to ride out the storm. You have lived in this home for 35 years and plan on staying there because its all you have. You also want to be there to protect it from potential looters afterwards.
2. Forced to stay. You are a hospital worker, public servant or hold some other job which requires you to stay in the area. You will be the one people look to for help and guidence whe the time comes.
3. You have nowhere to go. You are out of touch with family, family only lives in the area, you dont know anyone in a reasonable distance that can accomodate you etc.
4. You know exactly what you are doing.
Let me clarify what I mean by this. Anybody who has seen the aftermath of a storm knows that there are opportunistic people who take the opportunity to loot, steal, generally create more mayhem. Joe scumbag isn't stupid and knows exactly what is going on and what will happen. Everyone will leave, stores will close and the sheer mayhem caused by the disaster will have the police and emergency services occupied. They will be out there looking for survivors, rescuing people, performing first aid etc to people. Protecting property from theft comes second to saving human lives. This leaves the streets open to joe scumbag to do as he pleases. He can fight mike scumbag, rape his daughter and probably get away with it. He can go into Pops Electronic store and raid it. He can go into walmart and raid it. Why pay for a new TV you probably would never be able to afford when you can just go grab one off the shelf? The cops are too busy to stop you. Walmart has guns too. Let me grab a few and some ammo to protect myself from the anti-looters.
And so you have it. Joe scumbag has no electricity, no running water, no phone service but has a brand new HiDef flat screen TV with all the trimmings.
Oh wait, the police are now making their way into joe's area going door to door looking for the sick, wounded and dead. Joe sees a police presence as a threat, so what does he do? Uses that gun he stole from walmart to take shots at the police. This keeps them out of the area, puts fear into them and even causes some to turn in their badges because they feel it isnt worth it.
Thats my theory and I think it is pretty accurate. If this were not the case, the Wal-Marts would still be fully stocked with big screen TVs, DVD players and guns. The police force also wouldnt be shrinking and we wouldnt have an area where there was no law and order.

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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-10-2005, 02:28 PM
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Re: Why would you remain in a hazardous area instead of evacuating?

Well you left out the people who stayed just because they were plain stupid. They may have had somwhere to go, and the means to get there but for one reason or another they just didn't....

I'm sure you had the people who 'want to feel the thrill of the storm' I know I was joking around the day before it hit. A friend and were saying we would be storm hunters and go into the storm to see what it was like. But that was after it passed over Florida as nothing, and before it stregnthed. Now we just talk to each other about how that would have been a bad idea, and we would be dead right now...

Other than that those all could be a somewhat decent decent reason to stay.
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Re: Why would you remain in a hazardous area instead of evacuating?

Remember Chernobyl? People stayed in the "zone" after the meltdown in Ukraine (then USSR) for reasons other than those mentioned. I'm not saying those same reasons apply here, but they could in some sense. One reason they never moved out is because they couldn't find work elsewhere. No one wanted to hire people who may have been exposed to radiation. That would be costly to the employers. There was a more prominent reason however. The people actually *wanted* to be labeled as victims of Chernobyl. They wanted to be ill with the effects of radiation, and they fought with their doctors to write up medical documents saying they were ill because of Chernobyl. Why? Because they found a way to live off of it by milking the system for pensions. Because of the disaster, it was actually beneficial to be a "sufferer". Socially, the "sufferers" were often more well off then the working class because they had to do nothing, and they got pensions. It was a much sought after status to be a sufferer, and one of the ways to obtain that status legally, was to stay in the disaster zone.

There's a really good book documenting the whole socio-political aftermath of Chernobyl called "Life Exposed" by Adriana Petryna. I recommend it if you have the time.


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Re: Why would you remain in a hazardous area instead of evacuating?

Lets put it this way. Even if they knew they were going to be completely fucked up by this storm, living amongst flood waters and rubble of your house is a much better alternative to living at the Superdome or Convention center. I'd rather have rubble than absolutely nothing at all. That's what so many of these people have been reduced to.

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Re: Why would you remain in a hazardous area instead of evacuating?

I think that as the storm passed over Florida relatively harmless, it gave people a false sense of security. Then the storm grew and grew, yet people were still like "yeah right..."
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Re: Why would you remain in a hazardous area instead of evacuating?

why is there yet another post about this hurricane?????

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Re: Why would you remain in a hazardous area instead of evacuating?

[quote author=DaMaz3s link=topic=29076.msg402459#msg402459 date=1126449736]
why is there yet another post about this hurricane?????
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Maybe cause it was such a big thing?
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maybe so

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Re: Why would you remain in a hazardous area instead of evacuating?

[quote author=DaMaz3s link=topic=29076.msg402459#msg402459 date=1126449736]
why is there yet another post about this hurricane?????
[/quote]When VA gets attacked by aliens I will limit all comments to one thread.

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Re: Why would you remain in a hazardous area instead of evacuating?

va getting attacked by aliens has nothing to do w/ new orleans getting washed out drab


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