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WASHINGTON - Daylight-saving time would start three weeks earlier and run through Halloween under a change included in an energy bill approved Thursday by the House.

The energy legislation was expected to be passed by the Senate, probably Friday, and sent to President Bush.

The time change is supposed to save energy because people have more daylight in the evening and do not have to turn on lights.

The House had approved a two-month extension — one in the spring and the other in the fall. But that was scaled back after airline officials complained that the extension would cause problems with intentional flight schedules.

Farmers said the change would adversely affect livestock.

Some senators also questioned how much actual energy savings would be achieved.

"We ought to take a hard look at this before we jump into it," said Sen. Larry Craig (news, bio, voting record), R-Idaho.

The bill calls for a study into energy savings from daylight-saving time.

Reps. Edward Markey, D-Mass., and Fred Upton, R-Mich., agreed to scale back their original proposal.

The revised plan would begin daylight-saving time three weeks earlier, on the second Sunday in March and extend it by one week to the first Sunday in November. The extension would begin in March 2007.

Upton noted that the extension means daylight-saving time will continue through Halloween, adding to safety.

"Kids across the nation will soon rejoice," he said, as they get another hour of daylight trick-or-treating.

"The beauty of daylight-saving time is that it just makes everyone feel sunnier," Markey said.



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Re: Hey heifer, what time is it?

i know i've heard the explanation somewhere before but why exactly would a cow or pig give a crap what time it is?


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Re: Hey heifer, what time is it?

I dunno, but what I heard is that the sun won't rise until 8am in November. Seems pretty late to me.

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[quote author=Apocalypse link=topic=26297.msg356786#msg356786 date=1122638966]
i know i've heard the explanation somewhere before but why exactly would a cow or pig give a crap what time it is?
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I would like to know that as well. I don't understand how this affects airline schedules, either. Does it matter what time it is? If it takes 3 hours to fly somewhere, it will always take 3 hours to fly there no matter if it's DST or not.
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Re: Hey heifer, what time is it?

Perhaps the international flight scheduling problems are simply because other countries won't be changing their DST. That's the only thing I could think of.


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[quote author=csweeney link=topic=26297.msg356807#msg356807 date=1122640986]
I dunno, but what I heard is that the sun won't rise until 8am in November. Seems pretty late to me.
[/quote]Which means more energy used in the mornings........Thats your congress at work....


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[quote author=UnixGeezer link=topic=26297.msg356829#msg356829 date=1122643301]
Perhaps the international flight scheduling problems are simply because other countries won't be changing their DST. That's the only thing I could think of.
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yeah, but think about it. If your flight leaves from London at 8AM, does it matter what time it is in New York? It's still going to take you X hours to get there, and you're still going to have to be at the airport by 8AM. OK, so it throws off the time zones a bit, with new york being 4 hours behind London rather than 5, but I don't see how it screws anything up.
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Re: Hey heifer, what time is it?

howard stern just had a good idea....while we're on this time change thing why not move february between july and august so the winter isn't so cold...works for me


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Re: Hey heifer, what time is it?

The goal seems me to be for the benefit of the average American 8-5 worker so they have more sun after 5pm.

by the same token, to whoever said if that we spend more energy when sun comes up at 8 and it is cold in November, if sun is still up which it will be, the air will be warmer and less energy used. *

I always assumed the energy savings was negligable. *Winter is winter, summer is summer - it works itself out.

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[quote author=murph182 link=topic=26297.msg356869#msg356869 date=1122646143]
[quote author=UnixGeezer link=topic=26297.msg356829#msg356829 date=1122643301]
Perhaps the international flight scheduling problems are simply because other countries won't be changing their DST. That's the only thing I could think of.
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yeah, but think about it. If your flight leaves from London at 8AM, does it matter what time it is in New York? It's still going to take you X hours to get there, and you're still going to have to be at the airport by 8AM. OK, so it throws off the time zones a bit, with new york being 4 hours behind London rather than 5, but I don't see how it screws anything up.
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It could matter what time it arrives if it's needed to turn around for another flight. For example, I think the flights come from Europe to the east coast are reprovisioned and sent back over that night. I.e. the turn around time may be affected.


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