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Another Loss

Seems that the last few days have seen a few losses. I just received notice that America has lost a true hero today.

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Department of the Navy Announces the Death of Retired Vice Adm. James B. Stockdale

Retired Navy Vice Adm. James B. Stockdale, Medal of Honor recipient, former Viet Nam prisoner of war (POW), naval aviator and test pilot, academic, and American hero died today, July 5, 2005, at his home in Coronado, Calif. He was 81 years old and had been battling Alzheimer’s disease.

Born Dec. 23, 1923 in Abingdon, Ill., and a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy Class of 1947, he is best remembered for his extraordinary leadership as the senior naval officer held in captivity during the Vietnam War. As commanding officer of Carrier Air Group Sixteen flying from the aircraft carrier the USS Oriskany, he was shot down while leading a mission Sept. 9, 1965.

During his 7˝-year imprisonment, he was tortured numerous times, forced to wear vise-like heavy leg irons for two years and spent four years in solitary confinement. While imprisoned, he organized the prisoner culture in defiance of regulations forbidding prisoner communication and improvised a cohesive set of rules governing prisoner behavior. Codified in the acronym, BACK U.S. (Unity over Self), these rules gave prisoners a sense of hope, which many credited with giving them the strength to endure their ordeal.

Upon his release in 1973, Stockdale’s extraordinary heroism became widely known and he was awarded the Medal of Honor in 1976. A portion of his citation reads: “Stockdale…deliberately inflicted a near mortal wound to his person in order to convince his captors of his willingness to give up his life rather than capitulate. He was subsequently discovered and revived by the North Vietnamese who, convinced of his indomitable spirit, abated their employment of excessive harassment and torture of all prisoners of war.”

"Vice Adm. Jim Stockdale's legendary leadership and heroic service to the cause of freedom has been an inspiration to our nation,” said Secretary of the Navy Gordon England. “His courage and life stand as timeless examples of the power of faith and the strength of the human spirit. Our thoughts are with his devoted family. America and our Navy are eternally grateful and will always remember him."

Upon his retirement from naval service, the secretary of the Navy established the Vice Admiral Stockdale Award for Inspirational Leadership presented annually in both Pacific and Atlantic Fleets. Stockdale held 26 combat awards including two Distinguished Flying Crosses, three Distinguished Service Medals, two Purple Hearts and four Silver Star Medals. He is a member of the Navy’s Carrier Hall of Fame, The National Aviation Hall of Fame and an Honorary Fellow of the Society of Experimental Test Pilots. He held 11 honorary doctoral degrees.

"Our Navy is saddened by the loss of Vice Adm. James B. Stockdale, a giant among heroes and a patriarch of ethical leadership,” said Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Vern Clark. “Adm. Stockdale challenged the human limits of moral courage, physical endurance and intellectual bravery, emerging victorious as a legendary beacon for all to follow. Our thoughts and prayers are with Sybil, his devoted partner in love and life, and the rest of the Stockdale family."

Stockdale will be honored at a memorial service on board the USS Ronald Reagan in his hometown of Coronado, Calif. The service will take place Saturday, July 16. He will be buried with full honors at the U.S. Naval Academy Saturday, July 23. He is survived by his beloved wife Sybil of Coronado, Calif., and his four sons: James of Beaver, Pa.; Sidney of Albuquerque, N.M.; Stanford of Denver, Colo.; Taylor of Claremont, Calif.; and eight grandchildren.



In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions should be made to:

U.S. Naval Academy Foundation, 291 Wood Rd., Beach Hall, Annapolis, Md., 21402, telephone: (410) 295-4116.

Monmouth College Fund, 700 E. Broadway, Monmouth, Ill., 61462, telephone: (309) 457-2316/17


Stockdale’s biography and additional photos are located on the following Web site: http://www.admiralstockdale.com .
Corny or not, the man's unbreakable spirit and love for his country kept him going through 7 1/2 years of hell.


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Definately not. This guy deserves to be remembered for many many years.


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Not to be rude, but was he the guy that ran with Perot in '92?


[me=dhl]answered his own question with google.* The answer is yes.[/me]

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[quote author=dhl link=topic=24866.msg336186#msg336186 date=1120614610]
Not to be rude, but was he the guy that ran with Perot in '92?[/quote]
Help me out here -- I was about 8 years old in '92. What are the implications of this guy having run with Perot (putting political bias aside)?


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[quote author=dhl link=topic=24866.msg336186#msg336186 date=1120614610]
Not to be rude, but was he the guy that ran with Perot in '92?


[me=dhl]answered his own question with google. The answer is yes.[/me]
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Yes he did run with Perot reluctantly. Check the biography on his web site for a little insight.



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Re: Another Loss

From an article today:

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Stockdale, who said he joined the race to repay Perot for working to help free POWs in Vietnam, fared poorly in his one attempt at running for office. He fumbled his way through the 1992 debate, even asking the moderator to repeat a question because he didn't have his hearing aid turned on.

Still, he had endured far worse.

During the Vietnam War, Stockdale was a Navy fighter pilot based on the USS Oriskany and flew 201 missions before he was shot down on Sept. 9, 1965. He became the highest-ranking naval officer captured during the war, the Navy said.

Stockdale was taken to Hoa Lo Prison, known as the "Hanoi Hilton." His shoulders were wrenched from their sockets, his leg had been shattered by angry villagers and a torturer, and his back was broken. But he refused to capitulate.

Rather than allow himself to be used in a propaganda film, Stockdale smashed his face with a mahogany stool.
The rest of the article can be found here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obit_stockdale

Given all this and his reasoning behind helping Perot, I think we can cut him some slack for the vice-presidential run.


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[quote author=3AndMe link=topic=24866.msg336198#msg336198 date=1120615327]
[quote author=dhl link=topic=24866.msg336186#msg336186 date=1120614610]
Not to be rude, but was he the guy that ran with Perot in '92?[/quote]
Help me out here -- I was about 8 years old in '92. What are the implications of this guy having run with Perot (putting political bias aside)?
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there are no implications for having run with Perot....Stockdale just made some comments that resulted in him being the butt of many, MANY jokes on late night tv. For example, the time he had to have a question asked a second time because his hearing aid wasn't turned up. Funny? yeah. Any reflection on the character of a truly great American? Not in the least, except that hen didn't take it personally and stuck it out until the end of the race.
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Re: Another Loss

I reckon I missed the jokes during the time frame. Of course, I was also getting up every morning at 3am so I didn't get to see too much late night tv.

Thanks for the clarification as too what I thought was being implied Murph.


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