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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 02-21-2005, 07:53 PM Thread Starter
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"Rice" it's not just for three meals a day anymore

It's pretty easy to understand what folks mean by 'rice' though I'm sure some people's definition is different....

"Those lights are rice dude!"

"No way man, they're sick. I'm getting them."

"shung-ling way faa doo sung!!!"

I'm assuming the origins of this slang is from Westerner's once learning that lots of Japanese youth are modifying their Japanese cars (heh heh, domestic vehicles to them) with 8000K lights, big spoilers, extreme drops, underbody lighting, fancy paint jobs, etc... And many people here in the US and Canada associate Japan with rice (hell, we as a society associate all Asian culture with rice) just because it's their staple grain. So, when someone here adds what may be seen as an outlandish or extremely unnecessary modification to their car, they're called a Ricer, and it's always intended as an insult, or at least in a slightly derogatory manner. When we call someone a ricer we're saying we look down on Japanese youth that modify their cars as part of their pop culture, and that we think it's stupid, and that we think the 'ricer' in question is also stupid.

So car modifying is a big thing in Japan and it's created, even more so than here, a huge industry that's good for their kick-ass economy. They go to meets just like we do, admire each other's rides, brag, sometimes race their cars, stuff like that. In other words, they're probably "ricing right out"!! Seems pretty harmless to me though, and it probably doesn't get many people hurt, cause we all know how smart those Japs are, right? Man, I'd buy a Sony system over GE anyday, wouldn't you? Heck, I even bought a Mazda car over one made by the Big Three too, didn't you?

Now we all know that ricing is bad, and that those crazy, camera-happy Japs are just something to laugh at but but at least they don't have the world's highest murder rate.

I don't know, the whole rice thing just seems a little racist to me, but I could be wrong. God knows my wife often thinks I am.

I wonder if Japanese kids call their buddies pototo-ers when they put a set of roof-fogs or an American flag in the window of their 'imported' GM truck, or if they attempt to apply for a fishing rod or a firearms licence? Oops, nearly forgot, you don't even need a licence to buy a gun in Texas, just one to drive.

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at least they don't have the world's highest murder rate
No, but they do have the highest suicide rate.


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"Rice" it's not just for three meals a day anymore

wasn't "ricer" coined by the harley guys joking the import bikes...hence rice rocket or pocket rocket.


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"Rice" it's not just for three meals a day anymore

I kinda like Crotch rocket myself

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"Rice" it's not just for three meals a day anymore

Yeah, I remember the "rice rocket" term from probably back in 87 or so; referring to all those wickedly fast crotch rockets that hit the scene around that time.

I recall the Kawasaki GPZ750; fastest production bike on the planet around that time I think. 0-60 in what? About 3.0 maybe?

But I digress....

Blitz has it totally right, I see now. It depends who's slinging the term. "Hey, look at the faggot ricer" coming from a confederate flag t-shirt wearing coke monkey is not the same as "nice ricey ride, jerkoff" coming from a somewhat left-winger at a Honda Civic show.
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Me I like the term rice....or ricer...makes me think of rice pudding and riceroni....mmmmmmm unclebens

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"Rice" it's not just for three meals a day anymore

Since it turns out there were numerous threads on this, here was my original post from the other one:

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I've always associated "rice" with white teenage males, not the japanese culture.

I suppose the racial implications depend on the person using the term and the circumstances, whether it's being used as a derogatory sense or not.

If I see a 16 year old male driving a neon green/vinyl'd/glowing hyundai accent and make a rice comment, that's totally different than a middle aged redneck making a harsh comment about a young asian male in a RSX.

It definitely has racial/cultural origins, but it seems to have evolved into a non-racial term.


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"Rice" it's not just for three meals a day anymore

So...what are you trying to get at here?

Are you suggesting that we invent another stereotype for "one that modifies their car so that it appears faster although it really is not"?

To be honest with you, i wasn't exactly sure where the term "ricer" even came from, all i knew was that is what the Ex called those guys at Sonic with the fart can exhaust, painted "look alike carbon fiber" hood, etc. So to assure you, i've never said it with the thought of it being racially discriminating.

If it bothers you, i'm sure it bothers others, but good luck on persuading the rest of the country to change the habit.

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"Rice" it's not just for three meals a day anymore

There's making "unnessary" modifications, and then there's just fucking lazy. To me, screwing a park bench on the trunk of your FWD Civic not only looks silly, but can actually reduce the traction you have at the drive wheels. To me, that' rice!

Adding a body kit but not painting it to match the rest of your car.. or at least painting it to match the theme of your car... To me, that's rice!

Adding a coffee can to the end of your stock exhaust for the sole purpose of making it sound obnoxiously loud.... To me, that's rice!

I've seen the "culture" that exists in Japan (pictures anyway). The vast majority of those cars look incredible. They don't look half assed like the most of the clunkers you'll hear buzzing down the road in your densely populated US cities. Modifications to the apperance of your car that are done "tastefully" represent a new art form. The peices of crap with primer color body kits and 747 ailerons are a disgrace to said art form. To me, these people deserve the honor of having a word dedicated to their ridicule. For me, that word isn't derogatory (at least not much). It merely describes the level of "cheapness" that they are proudly displaying.

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So to assure you, i've never said it with the thought of it being racially discriminating.
Just to clarify, I'm only putting this up for discussion and to hear other's opinions. I'm sure not calling anyone who uses the term a racist. To me this is a car forum and not a political soapbox. It just seems like a worthwhile thread to start cause it's auto scene related. I've never once read another racist comment in this forum and am not making any assumptions about fellow members.

We had this discussion at work before and it was a good one. If ya want to call someone a ricer, etc, and post it on this forum, that's your day, and I don't care. Just wanted to get the thought out there, period.

As I posted originally, ricer seems to have roots in racism, which is pretty much inherent in a lot of cultures, so just wanted to have the discussion. I'm not trying to point a finger... just want this to be benign.
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