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Digital vs. Film + impulse buy -- what do you think?

Two purposes for this thread. Mainly, I'm curious to see how many people here still shoot film cameras, particularly SLR. In terms of quality and fun factor, what is everyone's preference -- digital or film? Any artists here still do darkroom work?

The second purpose is to get some opinions on this camera. Ive been lacking a digital camera for a loooong time. I hate wasting film with my SLR and paying for processing for those everyday pics of things that I want to take. So I felt an impulse to buy something and I decided on this. I wasn't looking for a high-end camera with full manual control capability --- just a decent point & shoot cam for everyday use. Anyway, I'm a digital cam n00b, so please share your experiences/opinions.

When I had my eye on this a while ago, it was more expensive. I swung it for about $160 online. It makes movies w/ sound too, which is kinda cool. As an upgrade, I'm thinking about a 1 GB SD card.

Good deal, or was I ripped off?

Hopefully it will arrive in time for the Philadelphia Auto Show. I'm going with some friends on Thursday.

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Digital vs. Film + impulse buy -- what do you think?

Well I usally on use the film camera is when I have to buy the disposable ones at a store on a road trip or something. Otherwise my digital camera is always in use.


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I use both and I don't see a problem using both types. In terms of end picture quality, it is going to take digital a long time to get where SLR film cameras already are. Digital does have one up on film cameras in terms of ease of use. In the two years or so I have had a digital camera I have taken about 3000 photos. If you consider that a 35mm photo costs about $.50 including the film and processing, thats around $1500 I would have had to spend if I had been using film. The great thing about taking that many pictures is that you develop an eye for the shot and that really reflects if you ever use your SLR. You are less likely to waste money if you learn with the digital and continue to use the SLR occasionaly for weddings and things like that. Having worked with all aspects of film cameras, it is really rewarding to have all of your effort end up with a finished print that you did everything on, but the instant satisfaction of digital and the possibility of digital manipulation makes it much more powerful. </art nerd rant>
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Isn't there a minimum pixel quality that is = to the standard SLR 35mm film? I've "heard" that it's around 6.5 mp or so. Today I saw an 8.2 mp camera for $800 and am tempted to get something like that. My old digi cam is 3mp and nowhere NEAR the quality of a 35mm film camera.

I've also been looking at the Canon Rebel which is a 6.5 mp SLR camera. I've seen pictures taken with this particular camera and they really look good. But just remember, the higher the mp the larger the quality print you can make.

Anyway, I may hold out a year or two and just wait until the 8-10 mp range becomes more affordable. Once I get something of that quality, I'm going to go nuts taking pictures! haha

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It's going to be hard to come close to the quality of a good 35mm, but hey, digital is pretty affordable and much better because there is really no waste. I just got a 70-300 for my 300D (digital rebel) and I'm going to an autoX next weekend to test it out.. hopefully get some print quality pictures. Witht he 6.3MP of the rebel, 8x10's are easy but no where near the quality of my Nikon N80's prints.

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I use both.

I have a Nikon D50 Digital SLR and a Contax Aria film SLR (using Zeiss lenses).

Now obviously it's pretty tough/impossible to beat the quality of a Contax/Zeiss combination, but that being said I do use the digital more than the film. It's just easier (and of course, cheaper).

One thing that annoys me about digital SLR's is their insistance on selling them with lame ass variable ratio (zoom) lenses. This makes it next to impossible to properly set up a shot. But of course, fixed aspect lenses can be bought. My other major issue with digicam's is that they're mostly set up for AF, and are not generally particuarly easy to use manually. This is an issue with lower end (read: Canon Rebel) SLR's as well.
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3andMe unless you are a professional photographer shooting medium format or larger you can get awesome results with digital. My girlfriend's brother is a professional photographer in New York. Unless he is shooting for posters or large ad work he uses a Canon D20 for personal shooting. He is a National Geographic-style photographer and he is very close to that quality. I've seen his photos and you have to get down with the magnifying glass on his blowups to tell that they are digital res. The tonality and texture is of course different (you have to do Photoshopping to match certain grades of film).

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^^^ That's really cool. I'm not *that* big into photography, but it is a hobby I picked up from a friend a while ago. He's really good, and he does mostly black & white 8x10's that he develops himself in his dark room... so it kind of stuck. I get mine developed in camera shops though. Normally, I use a 35mm SLR from before I was born. I have 2 cameras right now: an Asahi Pentax K1000 and a Ricoh KR-5 Super (with various lenses that fit both). They are both old-style fully manual SLR's and *incredibly* fun to shoot with. I went out and bought myself a tripod and cable release for timed exposures. I'll never reach National Geographic level... but I bet I can get similar results with a roll of Velvia 50.

I ordered the Kyocera digicam as a handy daily snapshot camera. It isn't the best, and it doesn't allow for much manual control, but from the sample pictures I saw.. it can't be beat for $160. I'm hoping it turns out to be a good deal.


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I am still just snap happy. I shoot and shoot and shoot and am happy when one shot out of 30 turns out well.

What I would like is a camera 6mp and higher that has very fast and hard zoom. However, I think for that I would need to go up higher than the $1000 that I am prepared to pay (DigiReb? 10D, D20, D70?). A year ago I got a Fuji Finepix S7000 that has been a good camera to me. I will probably use it until those high end Canons drop even more (or are available used).

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What I'd really love to have is a film scanner for negatives & slide film. Maybe one day........


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