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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-23-2004, 12:54 PM Thread Starter
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Speed cameras - a simple solution

This is a letter that Top Gear published in August on thier web site...
I thought it was good advice so I re-posted it here...

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Speed cameras. Damn them I hear you say. To avoid that nasty fine and points on your licence, I have an easy to follow solution. Using the simplest of modern technology, the latest biotech engineering, the most evolved computer in the world, and a fully re-programmable system that will seldom, if ever, let you down, try this...

It's called your right 'foot'. It's that dangly thing with five very short finger-like things that hangs from the bottom of your right leg. Simply connect it to your inbuilt PC (the brain, that's that squidgy grey thing inside your skull), which in turn is connected via a complex system of nerves and other electro-chemical-bio bits and pieces eventually ending up back at your right foot.

Using your extraordinary stereoscopic vision, simply read the road ahead using your 'eyes', and in conjunction with an extraordinary fiscal layout of £1.49, you can purchase a little road bible. Having read its sacred texts, (which will take you all of about an hour) you may be able to recall the sacred scriptures that let you know all about speed limits, and rules (the things we shouldn't break) and other important stuff. It's a shed load of information, called the 'Highway Code.''

Once you put all of the above items together, and learn how to multi-task and co-ordinate the above systems, there is a very strong possibility that you might learn to avoid those nasty camera things that beforehand you would have missed, and avoid having to lose your money.

It also might save you getting points on your licence, (unlike the show, points DON'T make prizes). If you get caught speeding, remember that old Chinese proverb - 'Tough'. What is so difficult about checking your speedo? 17-year olds can do it on their test! You've passed your test I hope? It's not rocket science is it? No-one told you to speed! No-one forced you to speed! No-one held a potato gun to your head! No-one would get there that much quicker, would they? No-one forced you to kill someone's daughter/son/father did they? If you drive for a company, the company pays for your time, they don't pay you to speed!

Not speeding does not induce any physical pain, Honestly, I've tried it. I don't have high blood pressure, I'm relaxed, I have no points on my licence, I haven't given the police or the government any money - and I manage to get to work on time (relaxed).

There's no stress, no worries, no speeding tickets! Oh, and by the way, I haven't killed anyone. Go on, save a life, DON'T SPEED. Never think 'it won't happen to me', because it probably will.

Graham Bowen - [email protected]

This was even longer and far more patronising before we toned it down - Ed.

If you've got something to say about this write and tell us. Just drop a line to [email protected] and we'll do the rest...
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That's another one of those "how to turn off the seat-belt reminder by wearing your seat-belt" kinda articles. Pffft is all I can say.

For the real answer, here's the cheap answer to the question:

http://www.jammersstore.com/anti_photo.htm

and then there's the expensive option that even warns you that you're going over the speed-limit in known areas of mounted cameras.

http://www.radardetectors.co.uk/origin_b2.htm


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This is a letter that Top Gear published in August on thier web site...
I thought it was good advice so I re-posted it here...


The only thing I don't like about those camera's are the "tactics" the government can use to "increase revenue" at busy intersections. I know a particular intersection in Tempe, AZ where the yellow light length was reduced to about a second before the light turned red. A lot of people were getting tickets when they had no intention of running a light. That has since changed and I think the greater Phoenix area has some regulations set up to limit that kind of shady shit.

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I am just glad the police post where they put those so you know where to slow down.

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btw I'm guilty of speeding most of the time... however my point is that people are stupid. You see they speed at the wrong times, in dense traffic, they tailgate they get agressive and are generally being idiots when driving. I see so many people narowly miss accidents because they don't drive defensively... my dad always told me that "You don't drive for yourself, you drive to avoid all the idiots that don't know how to drive... you save their lives by being careful. They should thank you." I've never had an accident... Every time I see a car I expect it to do the dumbest thing it can... I'm usually right and because I slowed down, I avoid a crash.

Using your right foot intelligently is way beyond most people's ability, witch is sad. I sometimes wish I could beat stupid drivers with a stupid stick... they deserve it.

As for the police, same principle applies... they usually stick to the same spots... be intelligent and learn them. Use your right foot and slow down... avoid a ticket.

Moral of my story: slow down where it counts...

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In MD they took away most of the signs that warn there is a red light camera or a speed camera. That and they are on almost every intersection in my county! So now police officers have one less job to do in their busy lives here. Just to see how efficient our police force is take into account the sniper incident of two years ago, it took them two months to catch the guys. Meanwhile youc couldn't get gas or go outside, but it's ok the cops have everything "under control" :x (Rant Off)

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I dislike enforcement methods that reduce things to black-and-white number crunching. "Speeding" is not dangerous. Driving faster than is safe for conditions and your car is. Most speed limits were created years ago, when cars were big, brakes sucked, and handling at speed was worse. So just because it was unsafe to drive a '72 Monte Carlo over 35 doesn't mean my Mazda 3 going 50 is unsafe. I'd bet even at 50, my Mazda 3 has a shorter braking distance and better handling than that Monte Carlo at 35.

As far as I'm concerned, speeding alone shouldn't be a ticketable offense. It should have to be shown that the speed was unsafe for conditions and vehicle.

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A while back, I read an article about how highways are constructed to allow "safe travel at 120 mph". Meaning, that if no one else was on the road, and your tires were rated for that speed, all of the turns on the highway are gradual enough to allow you to make the turn without slowing down. I have NO idea if there is any truth to that, but I have taken turns on the highway at greater speeds than that and not a had a problem (I was much younger and much much MUCH more stupid).

Speed limits on the highway have nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with generating revenue IMHO. Otherwise, why would the police NEVER drive on the highway below 80 mph while talking on their radios if it's so bloody unsafe? Oh yeah... because they're trained professionals. So proffessional, in fact, that they can't even manage to use turn signals.. but they'll give you a ticket for not using one!

If you're on a county road surrounded by houses... that's another story altogether.

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In Ontario, they are planning on bringing photo radar (speed cameras) back into effect.

Personally, I would rather be busted speeding by a camera than an actual officer. The photo radar ticket is sent to the owner of the car and does not affect insurance rates.

The ticket or the points doesnt bother me. Its the fact that insurance companies get to rape me for 3+ years.

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Yeah the whole photo-radar thingie can be disputed very easily, since they cannot prove that you were driving the vehicle.

You can also get yourself one of these which would solve the problem of court dates:

http://www.jammersstore.com/anti_photo.htm


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