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YES! It's the best, most accurate documentary ever. 2 7.14%
Yes, it's a very entertaining movie and you learn a lot. 15 53.57%
No, it is not entertaining or informative. 0 0%
NO! Moore's outright deception is the reason why so many people are misinformed. 10 35.71%
Ummm... it's sorta entertaining and sorts informative - but I really don't know either way. 1 3.57%
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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 06-28-2004, 12:12 AM Thread Starter
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Should Donut go see Moore's 'Fahrenheit' film?

I was out of town last weekend, so I didn't see any films. I'm thinking about watching Moore's latest "documentary" (I use this term with quotes because I have yet to determine what his films trully are).

Since I'm sure some of you have seen his movie - please let me know whether or not it's worthwhile to see. I trust Mazda3 forum users more than any bastard movie critic

By the way, I saw Bowling for Columbine. It was a funny movie - and I got my laughs. I do appreciate Moore's ability to portray events, but it's obvious he is biased.

That is why I was deeply saddened when Moore won his Academy Award. I love an entertaining satire as much as the next person, but his 'Bowling' movie was definitely not a documentary. It may have had lots of truth, but it was mixed in with enough misleading scenes and outright deception that I was greatly disappointed with the Academy.

Scene-splicing any speech to put a spin on things is funny - but not good journalism. If anyone hasn't looked into the details of Bowling for Columbine, you should read:
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowli...stonrally1.htm

Anyone can be made to look silly on film or TV... and people who look silly are entertaining

So what do you think of Moore's new film?


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ya go see it, its fun, you will laugh, and maybe cry.


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Watch the whole episodes of The Awful Truth before watching this movie

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911 is more of the same scene splicing and angle stuff. I take things --even this movie -- with a grain of salt, and I'm a Democrat. But its still worthwhile to see, though I bet you can get most of the same information out of the book the House of Saud, House of Bush. Though not nicely compacted into 2 hours with nifty media inserts.

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I am more curious about the documentary "Control Room" now THAT sounds interesting.

The first hour of Fahrenheit 9/11 is really good then it goes downhill a bit.

Spiderman 2 will wipe Fahrenheit 9/11 from the U.S.A's very poor short-term memory anyway.
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Spiderman 2 will wipe Fahrenheit 9/11 from the U.S.A's very poor short-term memory anyway.

Eh? I totally forgot I head this thread

Heh, yeah - I've decided against seeing Moore's new film. From what I've gathered, he hasn't changed his editing tactics and sneaky presentation. I guess it'd be funny to see someone bash George Bush - but the Daily Show does it so much better; and without the guise of any real news worth


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Top Ten George W. Bush Complaints About "Fahrenheit 9/11"

10. That actor who played the president was totally unconvincing.

9. It oversimplified the way I stole the election.

8. Too many of them fancy college-boy words.

7. If Michael Moore had waited a few months, he could have included the part where I get him deported.

6. Didn't have one of them hilarious monkeys who smoke cigarettes and gives people the finger.

5. Of all Michael Moore's accusations, only 97% are true.

4. Not sure - I passed out after a piece of popcorn lodged in my windpipe.

3. Where the hell was Spiderman?

2. Couldn't hear most of the movie over Cheney's foul mouth.

1. I thought this was supposed to be about dodgeball!
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Should Donut go see Moore's 'Fahrenheit' film?

Go see it, but do what I am planning on doing. I am going to pay for a different movie like Garfield or something (that movie will need help anyway) and then watch the F911 movie. This way I can see the movie and not give Moore any of my money. I just want to see it so I can talk about with some knowledge.

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Should Donut go see Moore's 'Fahrenheit' film?

^^^ Heh, stickin' it to the man.

Actually, I think it'd be more ironic if you paid money to see America's Heart & Soul, but then saw Moore's film

The main problem that I have with Moore's film is that you need to watch it twice - with a different mindset each time.

First, you have to turn off all critical thinking skills and forget anything you may have learned or known in the past. See Moore's movie and take everything at face value while making broad assumptions. You'll be very entertained and you will have lots of "new" opinions. It's helpful to actually write down some of these new thoughts.

Next, you have to re-capture your critical thinking skills and put your brain on alert mode (like the mode you are in when you go talk to your car salesman). Watch his film again and be wary of everything in his movie. A scene won't exist in his movie unless it serves a purpose... that is important to consider when watching Moore's products. You have to spot the tricks that are mixed in with the truths.

You'll find that in the end, you wasted a lot of your time because you didn't get anything new out of the experience. And, things that you think "might" be new, get clouded with the false statements and misleading tactics that Moore uses.

At least, this is how I approched the 'Bowling' film. I'm familiar with the NRA and some of American History. It was rather disconcerting to see him overtly mislead people who wouldn't know about the NRA or the circiumstances around Denver following Columbine. It's also amusing how he found a random group of militia types to do silly things on camera. I'd imagine you'd just as easily find a group of hippies who spend US aid on Marley albums, used Niche books, and beads. In any event, I guess it just falls back on how much you want to believe...

In the end, I'd like to see a film that shoots down the middle with more facts; you know, like a real documentary.

I've decided against seeing Moore's new film... I figure it's just not worth my time, and I get enough of my Bush-amusement off the Interweb. As for Academy awards, I think that Moore's films and Gibson's 'The Passion' film both equally deserve to be qualified as a "documentaries." But, I doubt that 'The Passion' will be up for a nomination in that category.


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