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yep, privatized is the way to go 8 57.14%
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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-14-2004, 07:14 PM Thread Starter
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Should the post office be privatized?

Man, I get really pissed off at the USPS... I mean, we're a developed country - you'd think we'd be able to have a privatized post office system.

I must have stood in line for 60 minutes today... all to PICK UP a freaking package. I mean, jeeeeez, why one line at 3pm that is run by a mooooron???

I'm pissed because I had one of those slips telling me to go to the post office after 2pm. I show up at 2pm. It's 2:30 by the time I get to the front of the line. The guy looks at my slip and says that "the guy in the truck hasn't arrived yet." So he tells me to wait off to the side... 30 minutes later (the guy still hasn't shown up) I ask him if he can page the bloody driver.

The "manager" hears this and says ... but the driver got back at 1:30. Hey look, here's that guy's package (he points do the area 2 feet away from my clerk moooron.)

And then, of all things, the clerk moooron says to me: "heh, sorry about that. But hey, we're the post office, so where else are ya gonna go?"


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Should the post office be privatized?

We do have a privatized post office - it's call UPS.

USPS has a problem because people don't send enough by mail anymore. They can't make enough money to run a route to everyones house, but they must.

So the option is, shut down the postal system and run a UPS-like system, or keep running it as it is (subsidizing it and such). If you need priority service, you pay more and you go UPS.
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Should the post office be privatized?

In Canada, Canada Post has "decentralized" most post office operations. Instead of 4 really big post offices in a city they have 30 smaller ones located in grocery stores, drug stores, convince stores, etc. This takes care of the 1 hour line ups and there is always one in walking distance.

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Should the post office be privatized?

The USPS is not exactly government run. Its a government agency, but as a result of the Postal Reorganization Act of 1970, the USPS was made more business-like by becoming self-sufficient.

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Should the post office be privatized?

Yeah, it's "technichally private" but I don't think giving the USPS corporation an official government sponsored monopoly is indicative of a true private entity.

Postal workers with the USPS are still sorta considered federal employees. I guess postal workers are often exempt from some federal benefits, but you'll usually see most things refer to "federal or postal employees" to group them together.

But the guy who takes your package at UPS will never be confused with a federal employee.


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Yeah, it's "technichally private" but I don't think giving the USPS corporation an official government sponsored monopoly is indicative of a true private entity.

Postal workers with the USPS are still sorta considered federal employees. I guess postal workers are often exempt from some federal benefits, but you'll usually see most things refer to "federal or postal employees" to group them together.

But the guy who takes your package at UPS will never be confused with a federal employee.
Its definitely not private.... I'm just saying its not really controlled by the government either.

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Should the post office be privatized?

I guess my poll needs 2 more options "semi-public/private" and "who really gives a damn?"

I'm still miffed at the post office. It seems, Every year, they find some way to royally screw me over.

Two years ago, my roomate and I at our apartment stopped getting mail for about a month. I stopped our postman on his route to ask about our mail and he'd just shrug his shoulders. Then went into the post office and ask the whereabouts of our mail. they tell me that we must not be getting any mail because they don't have any there for us. Well, I'm sorta expecting some bills to pay, but still nothing. So, one day, I go back down there to figure out what's going on.

The clerk comes around with a stack of mail 3 inches thick wrapped in a paper. She tells me that my mail wasn't delivered because the postman claimed that my name wasn't written "legibly" on my mail box. She drops the mail on the counter and walks away. I'm thinking WTF... she wouldn't elaborate and told me to leave with my mail.

I go back to check my mail box. We had to slide a business-card sized paper into a slot. I took the paper out - and it clearly said our names in legible, all caps, typed, black lettering. I have no clue how to re-word that sign...

Anyway, my roomate was expelled from school for missing a bill that he had to pay for tuition. I ended up being late on my insurance payment and some other crap. Either way, the post office sucks.

Last year, I had someone send me something priority parcel post... they chose USPS. The mother bastard delivery guy leaves the package on the side porch with no note. The problem is, he put the freaking box inside another box of garbage we had on the porch. I spent 5 days trying to figure out where that thing went.

Nothing terribly bad so far this year


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Should the post office be privatized?

I've never had problems with the USPS. I thought they were private, but I guess they aren't entirely. I hate UPS. They never leave packages at your door and only have 2 hours out of the day in which you can pick up a package. The hours are like 8am and 5pm. When you get to the place to pick up your package there is a line out the door. I always ship stuff USPS becaue it is convenient for me. If I had to pick a carrier in which to receive a package I would pick FedEX or Airborne Express.

At least stamps haven't increased in price. It seemed like the USPS was increasing the price of stamps a couple times a year.

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Should the post office be privatized?

The problem is that the USPS like practiallly all government & quasi government organization has a competitive advantage over privately run competitors.

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UPS Can't deliver to a P.O. Box or place mail in your mailbox. Federal law prevents that.
While UPS can deliver to private mail boxes at places like Mail Boxes Etc (now the UPS Store) those addresses are not allowed to be called "P.O. Boxes" as THAT is prevented by federal law.
UPS has to pay for registration for their vehicles, USPS does not.
UPS has to pay taxes, USPS does not.

The USPS has many advantages compared to UPS but they still can't make money. Thats the government for you.


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