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post #1 of 49 (permalink) Old 10-15-2003, 11:54 AM Thread Starter
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Anyone out there NOT drive manual?

Every time I read enthusiast web sites, magazines, etc, they're always testing a manual. And even though few people in the US know how to drive stick, there was that big flap last year about Mazda not stocking enough 5-speed/V6 MZ6's.

So here's my question: as someone who's never driven stick, am I less of a Mazda fan if I *don't* want a manual? Can people squeeze as much fun out of the car without it? Now that manumatics are standard on affordable cars like the Jetta 1.8T, P5 and upcoming MZ3, is that enough to bridge the gap between slushbox and DIY shifting? I read a CanadianDriver review of the '03 P5 with the SportAT and basically he said the new automatic made up for lack of a manual, that it was fairly idiot-proof while trusting your judgment (ie bounces off the rev limiter until you upshift). Can anyone share their experiences with the SportAT (or other such devices, Tiptronic, etc)?
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post #2 of 49 (permalink) Old 10-15-2003, 12:34 PM
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I've only drivin BMW and of course Mazdas with Tiptronic trannys. You can have alot of fun with these, but only if the car has alot of power under the hood. (IMO) The 6s is great. The BMW 330ci is another one of my favorites with the tiptronic tranny. Only thing I didn't like about the BMW is that if you take it to redline the tiptronic will shift for you. The Mazda6 will just keep going and won't shift until you do it.
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I do not drive stick. I have my MZ6 with the 5 sp tiptronic.

I haven't used the tiptronic since like the 2nd week of owning the car - it's just not worth it. It's a rarity that you can't get the transmission to do with you want through gas pedal manipulation rather than manually shifting the car.
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I drive a '99 Protege w/ an automatic. Not what I wanted, but when you are used car shopping you have to be flexible. Although I got everythign else I wanted on the car.

I will be getting a 3 w/ a manual (not sport automatic). I love driving and it just makes it seem more fun. I've learned how to drive my co-workers Jetta and I must say it shifts like butta compared to my other friend's Saturn.

Now if I can just figure out hills, I'll be good to go. :-)

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Now for my other question about the manumatic: Which direction makes sense to tap the shifter? By that I mean, on VW's tiptronic, you tap the lever forward to upshift and backward to downshift. With the Mazda, it's the opposite. I'm biased, figuring Mazda knows what it's doing and VW is a bunch of weird Germans, but... if you tap forward, you end up in a lower gear with more power. Whose thinking makes sense? If I were car shopping, I'd be very confused.
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We've always had ATs since my mom can't drive a 5spd. I drive MT and the 3 will be MT - saves $1000 off sticker and I desperately NEED something else than an AT.

The PRO and MAXI are both AT (:
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Right now i only drive automatic, but i would like to learn manual......however from what i hear, if you buy manual transmission and save $1000, but you will eventually spend that much to replace your clutch and probably more.

This is only what i heard from someone that works at an autoshop. I am not sure if this is true.
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Buy a stick! $1000 cheaper and AT trannies are $$$ to fix> We're talking $2000-5000 CAD! So better pay $500 for a clutch every 7-10 yrs than $2000 by 150.000kms...
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I'm going manual. More fun than auto!

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Manual all the way. And better performance.
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