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Camera for beginner - nature scenes, twilight hours, night shots.

I'm looking to get the Canon EOS Rebel T3i with the 18-55mm kit. That's just about the limits of my photography budget for now.

I read the review on dpcamera and this is just about the best reviewed camera without breaking into the $1,000 range. Also, a friend who knows his camera/lenses also recommended this to me.

I will be doing mostly nature scenes, twilight hours, and night time shots.

Aside from the T3i, do you recommend any other camera bodies? I definitely don't want to spend more than $1,000 and I would like to learn with the camera, and not out-grow it in a short time.

Humble me with your knowledge and I am open to criticism as long as they are constructive

Thank you much!
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Re: Camera for beginner - nature scenes, twilight hours, night shots.

Refurbished Canon 60D with 18-135mm IS from Canon Direct Store. It's listed at $1039.20 but if you take advantage of their Canon Loyalty Program you'll get 20% off. Then you can use the savings to buy other accessories (memory cards, bag, etc).

This will get you more reach (135 vs 55), swivel screen would be useful for awkward angles, 9 cross-type AF points (more sensitive) vs. 1, faster burst rate, better build quality, and top mount LCD for quicker adjustments.

If you do decide on this though, you better do it quick because alot of people take advantage of CLP and newer bodies tend to go out of stock very quick.

Hope this helped you in deciding.


EDIT: I didn't know the T3i also had a swivel screen.

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Re: Camera for beginner - nature scenes, twilight hours, night shots.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have to think twice about the 60D. $1039.20 is quite steep.

My labmate is into photography too and he too suggests a refurbished good. Although I had my eyes on the T2i kit for $640.00, and spend a little more on lenses. He suggested me to get this one right off the bat, no zoom, but for the price the image quality is unbeatable. He's been into photography for years and knees deep as far as investment goes. And he said I'm likely to outgrow a camera far quicker than lenses.

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II Camera Lens
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-50mm-1-8...562&sr=8-1

What do you guys think? Also, can you suggest a macro lens for me? It doesn't need to be the holy grail of all macro lens, but one that can get me started and will allow me to learn.
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Re: Camera for beginner - nature scenes, twilight hours, night shots.

the 50mm 1.8 is a must have. for the price its awesome. I love the way the 60d(50/40/30 etc) feels over the rebels. Much more solid and more room for bigger hands, not to mention i like the controls better. I recommend going to a camera store and at least feeling the difference between the two


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Re: Camera for beginner - nature scenes, twilight hours, night shots.

Yup, the "Nifty-Fifty" is the best bang for the buck lens.

Like I said, it won't be $1039.20. If you participate in the program, you get 20% off of that price. It is not published in their website and you need to call them personally and tell them you want to participate. After you pay, they'll ship your camera together with a shipping label. You then send any CANON camera (broken or not, new or old) with the shipping label you received.

If you really want to save though, I'll get this for your kind of photography:

Refurb T2i with 18-55mm - $512+tax after the CLP
Manfrotto Tripod/Head Combo - $220 from B&H http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...egs_Black.html
Nifty-Fifty - $120

That would leave you some money for memory cards, filters, etc. You would need a tripod for those low light scenes that you want, and it's better to buy one that would last you forever (trust me I know). It would be useful for macro, too. The nifty-fifty is for those times when you can't use a tripod and need the bright aperture.

For macro, there are many techniques to do it without a dedicated Macro lens. I bought an old manual lens from eBay for $20 to try the reverse mount technique.

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Re: Camera for beginner - nature scenes, twilight hours, night shots.

The T3i is a great entry-to-mid level camera. The ISO Expansion up to ISO 12,800 combined with the, previously mentioned, 50mm f/1.8 lens ($50.00 - $150.00) will make for great low light or evening shots. The lens is also a fixed (no zoom) lens which makes for better quality shots.

I currently use a Canon Rebel XSi and my next purchase will be the EOS 7D.

Let us know what you decide on.
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Re: Camera for beginner - nature scenes, twilight hours, night shots.

So to get the Canon Royalty Program discount, I HAVE to send back a Canon product...?

I don't have a Canon... %#^!!!
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Re: Camera for beginner - nature scenes, twilight hours, night shots.

Yep, just get a really old, crappy, near-to-broken-status off of eBay or Craigslist. Or maybe your relatives/friends have one LOL. It just needs to be Canon camera. And you have two weeks from receiving your purchased items to send it IIRC.

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Here's one that's about to close. I suggest you jump on this one if you want to go thru with the CLP.
http://cgi.ebay.com/canon-s400-digit...#ht_500wt_1156

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Re: Camera for beginner - nature scenes, twilight hours, night shots.

Also, can people please comment on the use of filters? Is there like a kit that contains multiple filters and such?

I'm sorry for such newbish questions. If I'm not clear on anything, please let me know.
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Re: Camera for beginner - nature scenes, twilight hours, night shots.

If this is your first major camera purchase you should worry about filters yet ... you will get some very nice photos without filters ... that is something you can research and discover over time.
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